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> Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall!
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post Feb 10 2011, 01:38 PM
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Yup, You need to do a dually rear set up to get tires wide enough. Maybe from a chevy pick up.....just kidding. Looks really good.
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post Feb 11 2011, 06:43 AM
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Man, that's a lot of work going into filling/sanding!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
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post Feb 11 2011, 10:19 AM
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Yup, Bodywork is always extremely laborous... Especially something like this where I have to create my own body lines.. There is a lot of "That looks like shit, what if I do this", And certainly plenty of "Well, I could do this, but Eh Its good enough". Those kind of lines are what makes the difference in the final sanding.. Its rediculous how much more work I have to do, but its what you have to do for a decent paint job..

I have been pushing a lot of time lately towards my new washer/dryer... It works fine, but the drain for it @ the house can not keep up with the pump.. I've been doing some serious engineering to get this stupid thing to work and its costing a lot of money just to get it to work..


I just keep pushing for the day when I can finally lay down some Phoenix Red... Mmmm that color is sooo pretty.
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i prefer my 914's rather unadorned (in response to your question about rear spoilers). after reading the thread and link about the low pressure area behind the targa bar, it's likely there's not much airflow back there to push on a spoiler anyway. looks like you'd have to use a big wing to have much effect.

by the way, there's some really good stuff in that thread and link (http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115467&hl=targa). surprised so little was studied about the aerodynamics of these cars.

thanks for the posts and pics! keep 'em coming!

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post Feb 11 2011, 03:42 PM
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Well the biggest problem is this car can actually USE the spoiler.. Without a spoiler the rear end gets REALLY unstable at speeds much over 100mph. I've been at 145 with just the small ducktail spoiler and that was just a bit scary.. This spoiler is a larger spoiler and should have better downforce at lower speeds. I was also considering the "vortex generators" on one of my spare tops, which should help get wind to the spoiler.

I think i'll just get another trunk as a spare and have it flush... For now i'll paint this hood with the spoiler.
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It's good to see the progress you're making. I personally enjoy the body work more than the mechanical work. I'm looking forward to starting my next project. You are inspiring me.
Keep it up, it's looking great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Feb 12 2011, 09:47 AM
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Andrew,
If you ever want to tow your car down here I'll be glad to give up a Sat or Sunday and help you. I have a 60 gallon compressor, DA, simple air tools, air block & hammer body tools...nothing special but works. I only have a cheapo HF wire fed...not worth the trouble.

Looking great...you are definitely motivated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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post Feb 12 2011, 11:09 AM
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Not many lunatics have the urge to modify the targa bar.....but I'm one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here is an old thread with my run at it mixed in.....there are a few items covered in it. I don't think it made the car any faster....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Spoiler?.....yeah, that's the ticket.
If a little is good, max per rules is better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Feb 13 2011, 11:45 AM
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I'll update this thread tomorrow. Not much to post but the pics will be uploaded to the Photobucket account if you want a sneak peak.
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post Feb 16 2011, 02:25 AM
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Vday weekend I didnt do much like I said.

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Started off with my new favorite beer.

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Friday I picked up some glazing puddy and some grey primer filler(not pictured)

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I basically laid down a bunch of filler/ glazing puddy mix over the trunk as I decided it would be easier just to sand it smooth.

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Laid it about 1/8" over the whole trunk. Lots of filler...




Fast forward to tonight.

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Lots and LOTS of sanding over the trunk. It got really boring so I went down to 60 grit from 80 grit (I dont have that much 60 grit... so i save it, I have about 100 feet of 80 grit..)

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Laid down a layer of glaze, then sanded, and laid another layer of glaze down. I still have maybe one or two more layers of glaze to get all the low spots/ pinholes, but the bondo/glaze combo worked really well and was very easy to spread.. I just wish i had more practice in technique. Oh well.

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I enlisted some help of Orange914's son, a good friend of mine.

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He was very happy for some reason... I told him I would "make him a star"
If I could get more help like this from more local friends, this would possibly go by faster..

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Sanded the spoiler most way with a course block.
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Some primer filler and a bit more sanding and this spoiler will be ready for paint!

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My friends accomplishments. Took off a couple layers of primer and commented on the poor overall shape of the bumper. He is very much adiment that I shouldnt change the bumper in design... maybe he's right... We'll see what I end up doing.

Thats all for tonight! BIG weekend ahead, should be BIG progress! I got my hands on a compressor so let the priming commence!!!!
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post Feb 20 2011, 03:18 AM
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Lets start with Friday.

I didnt get near as much done as I wanted, Particularly because it was raining and I was dealing with a multitude of other issues.. Arg.

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I did get my garden started (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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I picked up a longboard air sander... Oh I wish I did this prior to doing the rear trunk.. Arg.

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More progress on the damn targa bar. This is a project and a half... Finally figured out that a cutoff blade attached to my grinder works pretty damn good. Grinding blades just make heat, cutoff blades just slice through the welds.

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Found my window crank! yay! No vice grip!

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Took the plundge and cutoff the excess from the flare.


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Then I took a step back and said "Wait a minute, I actually like this! A built in brake cooker (or similar) scoop! I can shape my rocker pannel if I want to later, but for now this allows me to progress.
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PRIMER DAY!!!

I should have done some more bodywork, but in reality I needed to see where I was. Lots of little pinholes from the bondo and a couple of areas that are a tad low or the bondo wasnt sanded. Overall I am REALLY happy with the progress so far, It looks REALLY GOOD!
The sprayer needs to be adjusted properly.. This was simply a bit of a test to see how it all went down. I could have laid it more evenly, but so far I didnt notice any issues.

I'll have to get my black primer stirred and mixed if they can do it as its pretty hard, we'll see what the paint shop says, but ya. Im curious now if my old Phoenix Red paint will still be good.

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Put the air board sander to use. Worked great! Need a bigger compressor..

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Removed door panel so I could remove the outer door handle. Pic is for my reference for speakers. This is Dr. side speaker.


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Forgot to take pics of bondo and sanding of the targa bar... Oh well.


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Heres dad putting a regulator on the gun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Taping job.

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Work station.. The glass jar is to hold the spray gun, I dont have a vice yet so this had to work.


THE PRIMER!!
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Still wet

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Hours later, All dry!

A Happy Me!
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Tomorrow is guide coat and we go down in grit, 120? 220? Not sure, We'll see!
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Andrew, the car is looking great! I think that is so neat to have a dad that you can share your passion of cars with. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

I bet you are starting to get excited about your teener again.
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It has been amazing having my dad be with me through this whole thing (I mean cars in general). He is a wealth of knowledge and has taught me almost everything I know. He and I both share almost every single passion (He likes golf a little more, and I like games a little more, but thats it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)).

We are both REALLY looking forward to seeing my car in paint. I dont even think my mom knows im painting my car, however she loves my car (Her second car was a 914).

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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 20 2011, 12:11 PM) *

It has been amazing having my dad be with me through this whole thing (I mean cars in general). He is a wealth of knowledge and has taught me almost everything I know. He and I both share almost every single passion (He likes golf a little more, and I like games a little more, but thats it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)).

We are both REALLY looking forward to seeing my car in paint. I dont even think my mom knows im painting my car, however she loves my car (Her second car was a 914).


I see lots of kids out there with nothing to work towards, nothing to hope for, they are the ones that are in trouble. Andrews had this vision for this car for almost 9 years. It's changed many times along the way and faded at times. I've had the dream of this car sinced the 70s when Hot Rod magazine did a article on a Red V8 914. I've actually had very little input in the decisions for this car. I wanted him to do it his way. God has blessed me with a great Son.

As far a Mom knowing, well now she does. I had to show her the post. She says "There won't be anyone more excited then me when that car is finished." I doubt it, but she said it.

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey...


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One of my all time favorite pictures of my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for reposting that Dad!

This is the photo that I want to recreate when its all said and finished.
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I went and took some pics with the wheel covers off. Looking better all the time!

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Threw some guide coat on. I MIGHT work on it a little bit tonight, but I have some other things to do.. This might be it for this weekend. More progress to come on Tuesday night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

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Looking great Andrew! Love custom flares. You are doing amazing work on those flares. Can't wait to see the pics after paint (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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Love the progress!

BTW, paint those wheel spacers black... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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