 Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall! |
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| pt_700 |
 Feb 11 2011, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 1,100 Joined: 4-March 10 From: san jose, ca Member No.: 11,430 Region Association: Northern California 
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i prefer my 914's rather unadorned (in response to your question about rear spoilers). after reading the thread and link about the low pressure area behind the targa bar, it's likely there's not much airflow back there to push on a spoiler anyway. looks like you'd have to use a big wing to have much effect.
by the way, there's some really good stuff in that thread and link (http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115467&hl=targa). surprised so little was studied about the aerodynamics of these cars. thanks for the posts and pics! keep 'em coming! paul 
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| Andyrew |
Feb 11 2011, 03:42 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Well the biggest problem is this car can actually USE the spoiler.. Without a spoiler the rear end gets REALLY unstable at speeds much over 100mph. I've been at 145 with just the small ducktail spoiler and that was just a bit scary.. This spoiler is a larger spoiler and should have better downforce at lower speeds. I was also considering the "vortex generators" on one of my spare tops, which should help get wind to the spoiler.
I think i'll just get another trunk as a spare and have it flush... For now i'll paint this hood with the spoiler. |
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| Lennies914 |
Feb 11 2011, 09:11 PM
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Slacker Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 9-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,216 Region Association: Northern California  |
It's good to see the progress you're making. I personally enjoy the body work more than the mechanical work. I'm looking forward to starting my next project. You are inspiring me.
Keep it up, it's looking great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| computers4kids |
Feb 12 2011, 09:47 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Andrew,
If you ever want to tow your car down here I'll be glad to give up a Sat or Sunday and help you. I have a 60 gallon compressor, DA, simple air tools, air block & hammer body tools...nothing special but works. I only have a cheapo HF wire fed...not worth the trouble. Looking great...you are definitely motivated. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| J P Stein |
Feb 12 2011, 11:09 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Not many lunatics have the urge to modify the targa bar.....but I'm one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Here is an old thread with my run at it mixed in.....there are a few items covered in it. I don't think it made the car any faster....... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-aut...-we-got-em.html |
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| J P Stein |
Feb 12 2011, 11:14 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Spoiler?.....yeah, that's the ticket.
If a little is good, max per rules is better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Andyrew |
Feb 13 2011, 11:45 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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I'll update this thread tomorrow. Not much to post but the pics will be uploaded to the Photobucket account if you want a sneak peak.
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| Andyrew |
Feb 16 2011, 02:25 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Vday weekend I didnt do much like I said.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844734.1.jpg) Started off with my new favorite beer. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844734.2.jpg) Friday I picked up some glazing puddy and some grey primer filler(not pictured) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844735.3.jpg) I basically laid down a bunch of filler/ glazing puddy mix over the trunk as I decided it would be easier just to sand it smooth. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844735.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844735.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844735.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844736.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844736.8.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844736.9.jpg) Laid it about 1/8" over the whole trunk. Lots of filler... Fast forward to tonight. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844737.10.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844737.11.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844737.12.jpg) Lots and LOTS of sanding over the trunk. It got really boring so I went down to 60 grit from 80 grit (I dont have that much 60 grit... so i save it, I have about 100 feet of 80 grit..) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297845081.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297845082.2.jpg) Laid down a layer of glaze, then sanded, and laid another layer of glaze down. I still have maybe one or two more layers of glaze to get all the low spots/ pinholes, but the bondo/glaze combo worked really well and was very easy to spread.. I just wish i had more practice in technique. Oh well. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844738.13.jpg) I enlisted some help of Orange914's son, a good friend of mine. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844738.14.jpg) He was very happy for some reason... I told him I would "make him a star" If I could get more help like this from more local friends, this would possibly go by faster.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844738.15.jpg) Sanded the spoiler most way with a course block. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844739.16.jpg) Some primer filler and a bit more sanding and this spoiler will be ready for paint! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1297844739.17.jpg) My friends accomplishments. Took off a couple layers of primer and commented on the poor overall shape of the bumper. He is very much adiment that I shouldnt change the bumper in design... maybe he's right... We'll see what I end up doing. Thats all for tonight! BIG weekend ahead, should be BIG progress! I got my hands on a compressor so let the priming commence!!!! |
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 16 2011, 09:44 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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| Andyrew |
Feb 20 2011, 03:18 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Lets start with Friday.
I didnt get near as much done as I wanted, Particularly because it was raining and I was dealing with a multitude of other issues.. Arg. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193494.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193495.2.jpg) I did get my garden started (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193496.3.jpg) I picked up a longboard air sander... Oh I wish I did this prior to doing the rear trunk.. Arg. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193496.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193497.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193498.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193498.7.jpg) More progress on the damn targa bar. This is a project and a half... Finally figured out that a cutoff blade attached to my grinder works pretty damn good. Grinding blades just make heat, cutoff blades just slice through the welds. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193499.8.jpg) Found my window crank! yay! No vice grip! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193499.9.jpg) Took the plundge and cutoff the excess from the flare. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193500.10.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298193500.11.jpg) Then I took a step back and said "Wait a minute, I actually like this! A built in brake cooker (or similar) scoop! I can shape my rocker pannel if I want to later, but for now this allows me to progress. |
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| computers4kids |
Feb 20 2011, 08:31 AM
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Love these little cars! Group: Members Posts: 2,443 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Port Townsend, WA Member No.: 4,253 Region Association: None |
Andrew, the car is looking great! I think that is so neat to have a dad that you can share your passion of cars with. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
I bet you are starting to get excited about your teener again. Mark |
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| Andyrew |
Feb 20 2011, 02:11 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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It has been amazing having my dad be with me through this whole thing (I mean cars in general). He is a wealth of knowledge and has taught me almost everything I know. He and I both share almost every single passion (He likes golf a little more, and I like games a little more, but thats it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)).
We are both REALLY looking forward to seeing my car in paint. I dont even think my mom knows im painting my car, however she loves my car (Her second car was a 914). |
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| dan10101 |
Feb 20 2011, 03:18 PM
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TORQUE-o-holic Group: Members Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-April 03 From: Eagle Point, Or Member No.: 626 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Andyrew @ Feb 20 2011, 12:11 PM)  It has been amazing having my dad be with me through this whole thing (I mean cars in general). He is a wealth of knowledge and has taught me almost everything I know. He and I both share almost every single passion (He likes golf a little more, and I like games a little more, but thats it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)). We are both REALLY looking forward to seeing my car in paint. I dont even think my mom knows im painting my car, however she loves my car (Her second car was a 914). I see lots of kids out there with nothing to work towards, nothing to hope for, they are the ones that are in trouble. Andrews had this vision for this car for almost 9 years. It's changed many times along the way and faded at times. I've had the dream of this car sinced the 70s when Hot Rod magazine did a article on a Red V8 914. I've actually had very little input in the decisions for this car. I wanted him to do it his way. God has blessed me with a great Son. As far a Mom knowing, well now she does. I had to show her the post. She says "There won't be anyone more excited then me when that car is finished." I doubt it, but she said it. It's not about the destination, it's about the journey... Attached thumbnail(s) 
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| Andyrew |
Feb 20 2011, 03:50 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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One of my all time favorite pictures of my car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for reposting that Dad!
This is the photo that I want to recreate when its all said and finished. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1117476781.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298238610.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298238610.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298238610.3.jpg) I went and took some pics with the wheel covers off. Looking better all the time! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1298238611.4.jpg) Threw some guide coat on. I MIGHT work on it a little bit tonight, but I have some other things to do.. This might be it for this weekend. More progress to come on Tuesday night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). |
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| JRust |
Feb 20 2011, 04:48 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Looking great Andrew! Love custom flares. You are doing amazing work on those flares. Can't wait to see the pics after paint (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 20 2011, 06:47 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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| arkitect |
Feb 20 2011, 11:54 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
Andrew,
Great job...making a ton of progress. Are you changing the engine out, what did you decide? Dave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| Andyrew |
Feb 21 2011, 12:29 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California
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Mike,
Ya I probably should paint those. Dave, As of right now the engine is staying the same. I think I'll keep the engine in till I either blow up the trani or find a parts Audi/Passat. There is a subaru v6 engine/trani in the classifieds for 1500, but im not local nor do I have the spare cash to blow on it right now. Either way probably another year or so with the current setup. I am up in the air with the future engine. We will see how I feel when time progresses. I may just want to put in an Audi trani instead. |
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| Gint |
Feb 21 2011, 09:10 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
That's pretty cool. Good prgress Andrew, keep at it.
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