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Andyrews Progress Thread, 1/16/22 A Trip to The Red Barn - Lets fab a Firewall! |
Andyrew |
Jan 19 2011, 02:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
F.I setup: Its actually a pretty great unit, HOWEVER it doesnt do programing on the fly (while running). So basically any tuning changes you make to the map have to be made while the engine is off (IE turn it off for 15 seconds then restart). This may not seem like much, but when your used to changing a cell until it is performing the way you want and move to the next cell, its a PITA and causes for much longer tuning times. That being said my dad uses this fuel injection setup on his BB 72 El Camino SS.
He gets 15mpg on a good day. I think I tracked 17-19mpg highway. The issue was RPM's. When your cruising at 3.5-4k rpm's you just cant get good gas milage. If I was at 1700rpms at 65mph I could probably get 25+ What I will say that the fuel injection gave me was a WHOLE LOT more power. Realistically ~75-100tq at low RPM and ~ 50hp. I previously had the car dyno tuned at 245whp and 275wtq on a 600 carb. The difference in power was night and day. When I hit the gas in second gear now I just light up the tires. Alas this is one of the reasons why I want to go with a different engine. In order for me to enjoy this engine It would have to make 10 more MPG and have ~ 100lbs of tq less. Right now it feels to powerful for me to take comfortably through the mountains and rip it up. Sure I could control it with my right foot but whats the fun in driving flat out when flat out is 25% throttle? Anything more than that and the back end wants to come around. |
shoguneagle |
Jan 19 2011, 05:59 PM
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shoguneagle Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 3-January 03 From: CA, OR, AZ (CAZOR); New Mexico Member No.: 84 Region Association: Northern California |
WHAT???? YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING OR DRIVING "MY CAR" FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS???? I LEFT IN YOUR CARE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING YOU WOULD WORK ON IT AND DRIVE IT!!!!
I am leaving today with the trailer to pick it up and take it Home!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Just kidding. I will be in California sometime this summer and will stop by to visit you. I am going to follow your thread with great interest for any changes, working on it, and driving it. It seems other priorities take place and push our car projects down the line. Take care and great to see you still have the 914. Steve Hurt Shoguneagle |
SGB |
Jan 19 2011, 07:05 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Sounds like a rocket.
You should look at Tangerine Racing's trailing arm stiffening too, I think... |
arkitect |
Jan 19 2011, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Stockton, CA Member No.: 11,426 Region Association: None |
Andrew,
Go with a Audi engine like you want, don't settle for something else. A deal will bound to come your way, just need to keep looking. Dave |
Andyrew |
Jan 20 2011, 01:24 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Got some progress done on the Pass side seat.
The drivers side seat I mounted with the provided sliders and removed the 914 bracket alltogether. The passenger seat where height isnt as big of an issue, I customized the seat mount and rewelded the mounting holes to use the 914 seat. Similar to rdauenhauer's in my "Pep Boys Seat" thread (link in first post). Almost finished the seat, but I couldnt find my step bit for enlarging the holes on the 914 slider, I tried ovaling them out but ran out of time. Tomorrow maybe? Here is a pic of the results and a link to the pictures. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508287.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508288.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508288.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508289.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508290.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295508290.8.jpg) http://s1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc411/...14/914/1-19-11/ |
ernestj911@gmail.com |
Jan 21 2011, 12:54 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 20-July 06 Member No.: 6,472 |
This is a great 914 one the inspirations for me to get into these conversions. If you want more manageable power, then the easiest thing to do would be to put in a all Aluminum LS 5.3 GM engine. Your talkin 300hp. less 80-100bls. and fuel injected. Then when you are itching for more power, these things love mods, heck you can go 500 with this engine. Best of all you can find them for $500 bucks. You could have this thing running over a weekend. Then when you are board, bolt up that Audi transmission.
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Gint |
Jan 21 2011, 08:20 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,094 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Is it done yet? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Andyrew |
Jan 22 2011, 02:08 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
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Nope, Very little going to be done today... I got roped into helping my GF setup for her best friends baby shower, AND I have to help during the shower tomorrow... Yesterday we went to the snow.. So pretty much this weekend is a wash, but I was expecting that. Monday i'll hit on it again and finish up the seat, then possibly work on something else. |
Andyrew |
Jan 25 2011, 01:19 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
No progress tonight on the 914, however I did spend way to much time installing a front motor mount on the CRX.
The car has traction bars (PO) and the traction bars didnt give any provisions for a front motor mount. Been driving the car for months without a front motor mount and changed all the other motor mounts, but still the motor clunked around. I got a front motor mount and have been meaning to install/weld in provisions for it but never got around to it. After installing my garage door a couple weeks ago I just happened to stumble upon some 1" x 3/16 extra bar that I could use. So scouring the bolts and modifying the incorrect front motor mount so it fit, I spent about 3 hours and got it all welded up. (ran out of welding wire as well...) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1295939973.1.jpg) TOMORROW, I will get some work done on the 914... The CRX is now ready for an autox if I so feel it.. Yay! Gratuitious pic.. |
Andyrew |
Jan 26 2011, 11:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Finished the seat install!! I actually did most of the remaining fitting and reworking during lunch and got to the point of bolting it on before I had to leave lunch. I bolted it on when I got home and took a gratuitous pic for yall! Interior is starting to come together slightly! Just need to order (or make...) a carpet kit now.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105787.1.jpg) Next on the list was the water pump came in! So I jacked up the rear and put it on stands. Unfortunately I havent put in a drain petcock in the lowest point of the water system yet.... So I tried to pull one of the hoses off, but I could only get it open just a little bit with a screwdriver and let it drain.. In the meantime Dad brought over my stock hood and we decided to get to cutting the wheel well out. Couldnt find a template or anything to go off of, so I just started cutting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105400.2.jpg) Passenger side is smaller and both sides need finish touch up, but i'll get that finished when i do the bodywork on the hood. We installed the original hood and relined it up the best we could. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105401.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296105402.4.jpg) So ends today. I'll let the water keep dripping overnight and maybe get some work done tomorrow. |
Lennies914 |
Jan 26 2011, 11:22 PM
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Slacker Group: Members Posts: 828 Joined: 9-January 10 From: NorCal Member No.: 11,216 Region Association: Northern California |
Looking good Andrew. Is that an orange band badge on the hood?
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Mike Bellis |
Jan 26 2011, 11:39 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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Andyrew |
Jan 27 2011, 12:26 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Looking good Andrew. Is that an orange band badge on the hood? No, its actually a newer style badge. IIRC, I actually have a new orange band badge in a box somewhere. I ordered it a while ago and they sent me the wrong one, told them and they gave me the new one free. IIRC (This was like my first purchase... 7 years ago?) |
Justinp71 |
Jan 27 2011, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,605 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
Lookin Good!
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Andyrew |
Jan 27 2011, 02:21 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks!
Progress from lunch today. All radiator lines attached to the pump were removed. Pump was loosened and the belt was removed. I have determined that I need to remove the entire bracket and pump to be able to remove the pump. This is next on the list of things to do. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296159707.1.jpg) |
Andyrew |
Jan 28 2011, 05:48 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Progress from today!
Finished removing the water pump. Looks like the old one was still pretty good! Oh well, I prefer this other design anyways. Hopefully i can remember how the housing sits, I cant remember right now... The lines should help me figure it out though. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296258483.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296258484.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296258484.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296258485.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296258485.5.jpg) |
matthepcat |
Jan 28 2011, 07:55 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Right on. Just get her driving again, and you will be motivated.
Love your rear fenders and wheel combo. You should consider swapping to VW bus axles. Should stop your constant replacement. They seem to be holding up well on my 350 conversion. |
Mike Bellis |
Jan 28 2011, 08:25 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
It looks like nothings wrong with that pump. Most Mopar pump use thinner stamped steel blades. What's the plan with the pump?
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Andyrew |
Jan 28 2011, 11:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Replace it anyways. Its the pump that came with my kit and i was unsure of its condition. Ill just replace it with the cast unit and keep the old unit as a spare.
Matt, funny, i had some bus axles but couldnt find anyone who had the adapters for sale. Thanks for te compliment on the wheels! |
Andyrew |
Jan 29 2011, 07:56 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Progress so far today. Been working since 9am, unfortunately things would have gone a lot easier if the water pump wasnt giving me problems the whole time... I shall explain..
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353169.1.jpg) First off I took off every piece so that I could clean everything for reinstall, This piece above was pitted really bad so I took some sand paper on the flat work bench and sanded it down, but as you can see this is about 1/2 way through. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353169.2.jpg) Here is where I said F~ it, its good enough. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353170.3.jpg) Then I started on the housing, and got it so it flowed a little better.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353170.4.jpg) I then went and said OK and put sealant and gaskets and buttoned everything up. However I never checked to see if it spun... This would cause me 2 hours searching for another gasket later... Then when I put the pully on I noticed it didnt spin. Shit. Took it apart and noticed that there was a step in the housing and it caused for the impeller to touch the housing.. So about an hour or more of grinding on the housing and a little of the impeller it finally fit. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353171.5.jpg) I decided to put a couple of lips on the pipes to prevent slipage. I also took the dremel and ruffed it up as well(not in photo). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353171.6.jpg) Threw on some silicone on the treads as the bolts go directly into the housing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353171.7.jpg) This had silicone on them that had hardened completely (probably 15 years old or more) and needed the impact gun to break loose. Replaced thermostat (ECU thermostat). So after finding a gasket (2 hours... no one likes MOPARs) I set to get everything back together. Took a couple of tries to get the water pump braket oriented correctly but finally I got it in and installed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353172.8.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353172.9.jpg) Completed unit (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353173.10.jpg) Installed (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1210.photobucket.com-172-1296353173.11.jpg) Oil changed (Left out drain plug... lost about 3 quarts... yay) What to do next? I have all night..... |
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