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Electrical troubleshooting help needed |
pauldunn |
Feb 25 2011, 07:55 PM
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dudeface Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-February 11 From: Arizona Member No.: 12,687 Region Association: Southwest Region |
im hoping someone can help lead me in the right direction with this next problem im trying to conquer. on my "72, as soon as i put the cables on the battery the generator light and the oil light come on, and the top 2 red lights on the gas guage blink. and it sounds like the blinker relay is causing the red lights to blink. the oil sensor and the generator sensor wouldnt cause that to happen if they werent plugged in, so i think. wut should i look for? does anyone have an idea?
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underthetire |
Feb 25 2011, 09:36 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,062 Joined: 7-October 08 From: Brentwood Member No.: 9,623 Region Association: Northern California |
Remove the power relay on the relay board. If it still does it, could be a shorted diode in the alternator. If it doesn't, check your ignition switch. I'm sure someone else will chime in with other suggestions as well. Good luck.
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Tom_T |
Feb 25 2011, 10:35 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
im hoping someone can help lead me in the right direction with this next problem im trying to conquer. on my "72, as soon as i put the cables on the battery the generator light and the oil light come on, and the top 2 red lights on the gas guage blink. and it sounds like the blinker relay is causing the red lights to blink. the oil sensor and the generator sensor wouldnt cause that to happen if they werent plugged in, so i think. wut should i look for? does anyone have an idea? If I'm understanding you correctly, the ignition may be in the on position (or mis-wired or shorted that way) to show the oil & gen/alt lights, as well as the red on top acrh-shaped light is the E-brake on warning light (it sounds similar to a TS/E-flasher relay cuz it's a similar breaker relay to make it flash). Try putting the key in the ignition to see if they go off while power is hooked up at the pbattery, if not, download the 72 wiring diagram & trace it for shorts or mis-wiring giving power to the dash with the key off. |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 25 2011, 10:38 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,063 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Sounds like your ignition switch is on. The blinking is almost certainly because your handbrake handle is up. That and the other lights are expected when the key is turned to "on".
It is also possible that something is mis-wired, and the circuit that would get power when the key is on is getting shorted to a hot wire. --DD |
detoxcowboy |
Feb 25 2011, 10:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,294 Joined: 30-January 08 Member No.: 8,642 Region Association: Africa |
sounds normal if you were just turning the key and not starting, .. when you relaese the parking brake and start the car do all the lights go out?
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pauldunn |
Feb 25 2011, 11:22 PM
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dudeface Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-February 11 From: Arizona Member No.: 12,687 Region Association: Southwest Region |
sounds like you all are thinking the same thing. this car is in non-running condition. ive aquired it after sitting for who knows how long. and i guess i shoulda explained more. it does that whether the key is in the ignition or not, let alone in the on position. i even disconnected the ignition switch from its connector and it was still doin it.
and just a thought, they could also be 2 differant deals, couldnt they? the oil light and generator light are gonna be on if its not running. now the blinking red lights is whats confusing me. those 2 red arched light are for the parking brake? are they supposed to blink when the brake is on? and it doesnt look like anyone has been in it to mess with the wiring. any other ideas? the relay that is blinking is right inside, to the right of the left drivers air vent. what relay is that? Thanks for the help. oh, one more thing. on the junction block in the engine compartment, if i have the connector with all the wires in it that come from the front of the car unplugged, it wont do it. all the lights go out and no blinking. i guess that dont really help do it? thats just keeping power away from the front of the car. |
jaxdream |
Feb 26 2011, 07:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 974 Joined: 8-July 08 From: North Central Tennessee Member No.: 9,270 Region Association: South East States |
Also check the mastercylinder brake pressure switch, the wires may be off touching some metal or the switch senses no line pressure and is giving the no pressure signal ( arched brake light also ).This could be rest if it has the little red button it that can be pushed back in to reset. Just another place to check.
Jack / Jaxdream |
76-914 |
Feb 26 2011, 10:06 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
As far as the ebrake goes; check the switch at the base of the handle. Is it connected? Is it functioning? The brown wire (a ground) that connectcs to it may be laying against metal and grounding out/completing that circuit.
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 26 2011, 09:06 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,063 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
It is all normal behavior if the key is on. Since the key isn't, something is providing power to those things as if the key were on. You have a "hot" wire connected to a "switched" circuit.
Time to dig out the multimeter and start checking for voltage... --DD |
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