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| ConeDodger |
 Apr 24 2012, 10:17 PM
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Apex killer!  Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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QUOTE(RobW @ Apr 24 2012, 08:13 PM)  Nice work Rob. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Time to trade up to a Pirate Ship.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I wouldn't mind a trip around the cones in that worthy craft for sure matey! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Apr 25 2012, 07:27 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
How do you like the 8.5's?
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| ConeDodger |
Apr 25 2012, 08:49 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Apr 25 2012, 05:27 AM) How do you like the 8.5's? E, They were a little wide for George's factory flare reproduction. The flares have a bit more of a inside lip than the factory ones. I have often heard it said that the factory flares were of a lighter gauge metal but never that the inner lip was half that of the repops. Fortunately, Mark had a car with factory flares on the project floor at the OC. So when he put the wheels on the car and discovered the 'rub' he checked the other flares on that car and modified the reproduction flares on mine. I think Mark said there was room for 3/4" inside offset but Harvey may not be able to do that with this method. The purely esthetic answer to your question is that I love them! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Apr 25 2012, 04:24 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Really just wondered how they looked against the inside. 3/4" total or another 3/4" left to go? I would think another 3/4 would max it out.
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| McMark |
Apr 25 2012, 06:01 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
There is a little room on the inside. Definitely more breathing room than the outside. But you would be hard pressed to max it out unless you were building completely custom wheels and could specifically choose your offset. I did a bunch of measuring and math today based on Robs wheels and decided that if you built a 9" wheel with a 11mm offset and ran a 245 tire it should fit. But everything would have to be just-so and the sidewalls on the tire you buy would be a big concern.
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| SirAndy |
Apr 25 2012, 06:16 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,891 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 25 2012, 05:01 PM) There is a little room on the inside. Definitely more breathing room than the outside. But you would be hard pressed to max it out unless you were building completely custom wheels and could specifically choose your offset. I did a bunch of measuring and math today based on Robs wheels and decided that if you built a 9" wheel with a 11mm offset and ran a 245 tire it should fit. But everything would have to be just-so and the sidewalls on the tire you buy would be a big concern. 9"x15 with 275/45 is what some of the factory GTs used to run back in the day. However, it is next to impossible to find tires in that size anymore. As for the offset, instead of trying to find the perfect offset, one can simply use long wheel studs and spacers to get the wheels just right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| r_towle |
Apr 25 2012, 06:26 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Mark,
did you see a decent place to section the rear flares and add a strip? I can go look but I bet you have thought about it a bit.... richb |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 25 2012, 06:32 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,891 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 25 2012, 05:26 PM) did you see a decent place to section the rear flares and add a strip? I can go look but I bet you have thought about it a bit.... Check out Armando's GT website. He's got a full pictorial on how to do this ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| r_towle |
Apr 25 2012, 10:29 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 25 2012, 08:32 PM) QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 25 2012, 05:26 PM) did you see a decent place to section the rear flares and add a strip? I can go look but I bet you have thought about it a bit.... Check out Armando's GT website. He's got a full pictorial on how to do this ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) wow....never saw that... Looks like he started in 2011.... rich |
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| Eric_Shea |
Apr 25 2012, 10:53 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,289 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE As for the offset, instead of trying to find the perfect offset, one can simply use long wheel studs and spacers to get the wheels just right. Not really. The 911 8's (x15") are very close to the lip generally. Adding a spacer would simply put the tire into the fender. The 9's are even worse as the extra inch comes on the outside. If you look at the factory cars with 9's they had the fenders pulled. Knowing this going into it, you can mount the flares out a bit. With the 8's there seems to be about an inch plus on the inside. Spacers won't do much good in helping maximizing that useable space. I tried a custom 9 that was an 8 with an inch added on the backside. My tires rubbed. That's why the 8.5's came to be which is why I was wondering how they fit. Stock flares can be tough. |
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| ConeDodger |
Apr 25 2012, 11:08 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Eric,
I don't think Harvey came up with this by accident. These 8.5" wheels fit like a glove. Last I talked to Harvey, he said he could take my fronts and add an inch to the inside to make them 8"... I had little time to fool with pressures at the event on Sunday so I just told Mark where to start. He must have done some reading because he told me after his first three runs that the car was pushing. I said to either add air to the rear or take air out of the front and he already had! That burger boy learns Mcquick! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
May 20 2012, 04:00 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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Did a bunch of tuning today. When I got it back here to Reno after WCR and the Sacramento Valley event, it was running way lean! That's weird because Mark had it tuned pretty much perfectly when it was at Sea-level in Sacramento and Marina.
I added bunches of fuel at 3500rpm through 7250rpm and gave both the low and high rpm accelerator pump function +10 increases. My stock temperature gauge which is oil temp was sitting on the 'P' but CHT was 200 and EGT was fluctuating between 1200 and 1400 under load. These values are way better than a stock 2.0. Not necessarily EGT but CHT for sure... We were baffled as to what could have happened to the tune... I think it may be that MAP is more sensitive to fluctuations at altitude. Everything was still plugged in and appears to be functioning. Either that or the ECU lost its mind from having the car bounced around on the trailer on the way back from WCR... Attached image(s) 
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| EdwardBlume |
May 20 2012, 08:44 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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How frustrating. Sell it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)
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| Krieger |
May 20 2012, 10:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,764 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None
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These are the kind of problems we all should have. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Enjoy this beast Rob!
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| DNHunt |
May 21 2012, 08:26 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
I had the same problem with SDS too driving up to Tahoe. I kept adding fuel with the tuning knob. I'm not sure what gives since they use it on small planes. Maybe, pilots are used to adjusting mixture and don't mind.
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| ConeDodger |
May 21 2012, 09:24 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(DNHunt @ May 21 2012, 06:26 AM) I had the same problem with SDS too driving up to Tahoe. I kept adding fuel with the tuning knob. I'm not sure what gives since they use it on small planes. Maybe, pilots are used to adjusting mixture and don't mind. Dave We don't have the mixture knob wired in to the custom harness. Not that I want to use that as a crutch... I don't have the tuning down the way Mark does. He looks more like he is texting his wife than tuning with his fingers dancing around on the tuning interface. I would say that is why it is at 90%. That and he could tune while I drove and I have to drive, look at the AFM and the tach, go back to the house and add to the areas where it was lean. Go out and do it again and so forth... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Rob, you can buy the engine. It is priced around the same price you are asking for the Pirate Ship (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I wonder if these planes are using TP tuning? |
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| DNHunt |
May 21 2012, 10:48 AM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
I agree, you really need a tuner riding along. I'd give SDS a call. I talked to them a couple of times and they were very helpful.
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| ConeDodger |
May 21 2012, 11:19 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(DNHunt @ May 21 2012, 08:48 AM) I agree, you really need a tuner riding along. I'd give SDS a call. I talked to them a couple of times and they were very helpful. Dave I will Dave. I just need to print that page from the manual where you write down all of the tuning so they have an idea of what you are doing. I wonder if they need all the other stuff as well? O2 logs and such as well as temperatures... BTW, I'm building an engine for the 240Z soon. I have debated a turbo or a NA 2.8 block with a 280Z intake plenum and a big throttle body. I will go with microsquirt this time. |
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| rwilner |
May 21 2012, 11:24 AM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 21 2012, 01:19 PM) I will go with microsquirt this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
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| ConeDodger |
May 21 2012, 11:24 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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I just asked Yopu if she wanted to go for a ride in the 914. She got this look like "why the 914" and then said it... I said, let me rephrase that, "let's take a ride over to the Apple Store in the 914". Big smile and "Ok". Her birthday is Wednesday and she wants the new iPad... (I get her old one) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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