Just another damned project thread, 914-6 3.2 conversion in GT dress-up |
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Just another damned project thread, 914-6 3.2 conversion in GT dress-up |
Rand |
Jul 6 2013, 02:44 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Congrats. Hopefully that other point doesn't eat at you. 3,4,5,6. When you count it out......
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ConeDodger |
Jul 6 2013, 03:04 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
A 3.2 can be made to put out the stock numbers of a 3.6. There is a combination of things that can be done. The intakes can be Extrude-Honed and balanced flow. The AFM can be replaced with a MAF that reports to the ECU as if it was the AFM. A Steve Wong chip can be added. Heck, just removing and replacing the stock exhaust gives you a pretty big boost. I'm not worried about the 'other points' as I can make up the difference if I want to. I suspect I will be pretty happy for a while though...
That, and the car looks soooooooooooooo good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s) |
Rand |
Jul 6 2013, 05:04 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
A 3.2 can be made to put out the stock numbers of a 3.6. There is a combination of things that can be done. The intakes can be Extrude-Honed and balanced flow. The AFM can be replaced with a MAF that reports to the ECU as if it was the AFM. A Steve Wong chip can be added. Heck, just removing and replacing the stock exhaust gives you a pretty big boost. I'm not worried about the 'other points' as I can make up the difference if I want to. I suspect I will be pretty happy for a while though... That, and the car looks soooooooooooooo good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Had to mess with you bro. Hard to argue with a 3.2. One of the best Porsche engines ever.. I'm stoked for you and can't wait to see what comes of this. |
r_towle |
Jul 7 2013, 06:20 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
So, what does a used 3.2 motor cost nowadays?
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ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2013, 06:43 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
So, what does a used 3.2 motor cost nowadays? Raw, undelivered, the range was $5-8K with private party at the low end and Porsche recyclers at the high end. Hard to tell what the final cost will be though, as I have to sell off all of the 3.2 stuff I won't use such as heat exchangers, cat, muffler, AC, tin, air box, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate etc, then buy tin, exhaust, K&N, etc... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
r_towle |
Jul 7 2013, 06:46 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,645 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Get the dme checked to make sure the solder joints are all good.
Get the afm unit reworked at the same time. Just save yourself the headache....stuff is old and flaky. Rich |
ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2013, 06:58 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Get the dme checked to make sure the solder joints are all good. Get the afm unit reworked at the same time. Just save yourself the headache....stuff is old and flaky. Rich It came out of a wrecked '87 911. I have heard and seen it run and it purrs like a kitten and growls like a lion. I'm not worried about the AFM because I would replace it with MAF if it went bad. I have personally seen about 40 DME boxes at Parts Heaven. No headaches for me... At just over 4000 RPM, all hell breaks loose in a 2800# 911 Carerra. I'm more worried about 4000 RPM in a 2000# 914! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) |
mepstein |
Jul 7 2013, 07:55 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,594 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I can't wait to drive mine.
What made you decide to go 6 over your built 4? |
ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2013, 08:36 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I can't wait to drive mine. What made you decide to go 6 over your built 4? It had always been the plan. Ever since going for a ride in Paul Sayegh's car I have been sure I would build a street GT with a six. I owned the Bumblebee Racer and that was a six of course, but it was caged and absolutely a pain to drive on the street. I want Yopu to ride in it, hell! Drive it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) |
mepstein |
Jul 7 2013, 09:18 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,594 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I can't wait to drive mine. What made you decide to go 6 over your built 4? It had always been the plan. Ever since going for a ride in Paul Sayegh's car I have been sure I would build a street GT with a six. I owned the Bumblebee Racer and that was a six of course, but it was caged and absolutely a pain to drive on the street. I want Yopu to ride in it, hell! Drive it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) I understand. One ride in a 3.2-6 did it for me. My 1.7 is a fun little cruiser and fun to drive but a strong 6 is an E ticket ride |
ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2013, 05:19 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
When it rains it pours! Just bought a second 3.2 with 55K miles on it and sold the first and the 915 that came with it for a modest profit... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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McMark |
Jul 7 2013, 05:40 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Whoa! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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ConeDodger |
Jul 7 2013, 06:01 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I think that 60K miles is right about the time they do a check on the valve guides and such so while it's out... |
ConeDodger |
Jul 8 2013, 12:48 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Just sent the cashiers check for the engine. The guy I am buying it from is a member here though he hasn't owned a 914 in a couple years. His 914 now apparently belongs to Rich Wilner and he has been a customer of Chris Foley...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Now, I'm officially excited!! |
ChrisFoley |
Jul 8 2013, 08:02 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,964 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None |
Just sent the cashiers check for the engine. The guy I am buying it from is a member here though he hasn't owned a 914 in a couple years. His 914 now apparently belongs to Rich Wilner and he has been a customer of Chris Foley... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) Now, I'm officially excited!! If I'm not mistaken, that 914 has since been reunited with its original owner. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The 3.2 is a great engine for a 914-6. You're gonna love it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
SirAndy |
Jul 9 2013, 11:25 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,891 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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R8CERX |
Jul 9 2013, 11:31 AM
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2014 New year resolution: To get along with Woody... Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 5-June 13 From: California Member No.: 15,972 Region Association: Southern California |
Awesome set up!!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Great job! A 3.2 can be made to put out the stock numbers of a 3.6. There is a combination of things that can be done. The intakes can be Extrude-Honed and balanced flow. The AFM can be replaced with a MAF that reports to the ECU as if it was the AFM. A Steve Wong chip can be added. Heck, just removing and replacing the stock exhaust gives you a pretty big boost. I'm not worried about the 'other points' as I can make up the difference if I want to. I suspect I will be pretty happy for a while though... That, and the car looks soooooooooooooo good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
ConeDodger |
Jul 9 2013, 01:25 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
A question for the guys who have done 3.2 conversions...
Patrick Motorsports seems to sell a couple different lightened flywheels for the conversion. I know about the issues with lightened flywheels but I am wondering if these effect the stock DME injection at all? I am purposely going with a stock 3.2 for the driveability these engines exhibit. |
TravisNeff |
Jul 9 2013, 05:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I think a steve wong chip could solve the issue with the light flywheel and adjust for a non catalyst exhaust. vroom!
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ConeDodger |
Jul 9 2013, 05:21 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,824 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I think a steve wong chip could solve the issue with the light flywheel and adjust for a non catalyst exhaust. vroom! You may be right. And the nice thing about Steve is that if I decide to do the other stuff, extrude hone and flow balance the intake and replace the AFM with a MAF, he will re-flash it... Of course, if McMark gives me a demeaning look, I'll have to find another solution... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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