914/6 resto warning, "rust"oration is more like it... Options

[Brad Roberts]

It appears that we FUCKED UP when we told you to buy that car. Dean Vanney knows these cars forwards and backwards and should have known this thing had cancer...bad.

I feel bad.

On the flip side.... the silver six you and Brant went and looked at for my friend Doug.... somebody did some rust repair in the right side frame rail and placed a flat piece if steel over the repairs that sits flush with the engine shelf... NICE.


I'm now pissed OFF.

B

[Gint]

Didn't mean to piss you off Brad. I'll live though. I knew the car had rust. Not blaming anybody else.

I didn't see that piece you're talking about on Doug's car. But then I never lifted the car to get my head that far underneath. Is it under the engine shelf?

[jonwatts]

Eh, I think Ginter was due for a nice year-long project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Keep the pictures coming, please. I want to see how some of that deep rust is taken care of.

[Gint]

Eh, I think Ginter was due for a nice year-long project.  

Keep the pictures coming, please. I want to see how some of that deep rust is taken care of.

Why? Multiple projects for months at a time in some cases aren't enough? When this car is done, I'm going back to stuff like extending my deck and finishing my garage. I'm swearin off cars for a while.

I'll get pics, but the body shop is an hour across town, so there will be gaps.

[Lawrence]

Damn, Mike.

I looked at your pictures. That's very discouraging.

I recommend that you call Mayeur and get a set of his longitudinal stiffening kits. Install the braces on both sides to keep the car even.

Sorry,
Rusty

[Gint]

Thanks Lawrence. Dunno about any chassis (or just long) stiffening kits at this point. I have a month of stripping this car and the donor to look forward to before I can even get to that point.

[Brad Roberts]

No need for lift to see this. Its directly below where the battery tray should be. Nicely concealed with the trunk paint. I'll shoot some pics today. Busy answering the friggin phone all day yesterday.


B

[Gint]

I was just instructed by someone at SSI to call you on your cell phone and NOT the company phone. Don't you own the joint?

[silver six]

Yeah, the guy who answers the phone at SSI is not that friendly. In need of a girlfriend maybe.

So Brad and Ginter,

I think you guys did a great job checking out the silver 6 in Colorado for me. The only rust I can find is superficial and not structural. The brakes kick ass, the body panes are fairly straight (discribed like Ginter said and in good shape for a 33 year old car), the cooling system is more than sufficient (it hardly ever leaks oil) and the drive train is in excellent shape. The engine is a piece of art, and the intake and exhaust makes the coolest sounds I've ever heard a car make. It's geared high, but that's only because it's stock. And at least partially due to the high gearing, I've already kicked the shit out of a vet one night on the 280 without ever shifting out of 5th. Imagine 70 mph (already at 4000 rpm) to 120 mph pushing you hard in to the back of the seat. So I'm really happy with the car and I think you guys deserve props.

To top it off I hardly knew you guys and you were willing to do all this legwork for free. That's an amazing testiment to the 914 community and especially the group of people here on 914club.

As far as the right side long, we don't know at this time that there's any structural rust under the metal engine shelf plate and the PO specifically said he repaired that area. I can detect no sag and my superficial inspection found no rust. So there's no need at this time to jump to conclusions. If there's no significant structural rust (and there probably isn't) then its no harm no foul.

Douglas

[Brad Roberts]

We get hammered daily 20-30 times (no joke) with Kaiser Permante calls since they changed their number.

This has gone on for 9 months now... you would be a little pissy trying to answer the phone all day also.

This place is big... so trying to answer the phone every day 60 some odd times between 2 people gets real OLD when half of them are not for us. Just call my cell.


B

[Brad Roberts]

Oh.. Mike..

I dont own shit. The deal wont be complete for 2 years (buyout period)

B

[Brad Roberts]

And Doug...

Your brakes suck. Nice calipers, but I think the bias valve is toast. Our 4 cyl cars have better brakes...LOL. I'll look into it.

B

[Mueller]

I thought Mike knew of the rust on the /6.....now I did recommend that he not buy the 911...too much work for the money and transportation logistics


I wonder if those yellow wheels have surfaced somewhere??

[Gint]

Where to start.

Douglas:

the cooling system is more than sufficient (it hardly ever leaks oil)

That's worth the purchase price all by itself.

the PO specifically said he repaired that area.

I went back and looked at the pics that the PO had sent you. That side engine shelf looked immaculate (although not stock) in the pics. In retrospect, I probably didn't even give it a second glance when I looked at the car. I was really looking for rust more than anything else. And that whole floorpan thing...


Brad:

you would be a little pissy trying to answer the phone all day also

Don't blame him a bit. Although a girlfriend might help....

Mueller:

I thought Mike knew of the rust on the /6.....

I did indeed. I didn't realize that it was this bad, but I blame no one. I knew it, I bought it. Can't wait to get it back on the road again all shiny and solid.

[Gint]

Now, where was I?

Good news! The front trunk and fuel tank area are in really good shape. A tiny bit of surface rust here and there, but certainly no major deal at all.

This car had an underbody sway bar at one time. I'll have to patch those holes.

This post has been edited by Gint: May 19 2003, 04:48 PM

[Gint]

Tank area passenger

There is some VERY minor surface rust in here. It may not be rust at all, but the paint looks kinda shabby. I'm not sure if I'll mess with the tank area, but a good cleaning, prep and maybe some POR15. I don't know yet until I get everything out of there.

This post has been edited by Gint: May 19 2003, 04:50 PM

[Gint]

Tank area Driver's side

[Gint]

Seal channel surface rust, no biggie.

[Gint]

Where'd that pic go?

[Gint]

Inside of the tank looks fantastic. Hard to tell with this pic, but no rust at all.

Gotta get back to work now...