Nader's Nightmare...and mine too build thread, 4/6/14 Update. Options

[914coop]

Ok engine is together minus turbo and carb's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Will be coming off the stand tomorrow and clutch
and pressure plate going on. Attaching the transmission and getting ready for it to go in to the car.
Will take a bit to get it in as I will need to build Mount for it. Hopefully in a couple of weeks will be ready to start it up.
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[Dr Evil]

Nice. You are not moving the oil filter? I think I have a block that bolts on and you can put hoses to to move it away from the wall.

Making an engine mount for that will be real easy. That engine was built for transplanting.

[rick 918-S]

Nice progress! I wanted to come down and help for a day but I'm working 7 days a week now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I agree, if you can move the oil filter console it will be easier to fit in the engine bay.

[914coop]

Have the adapter to replace the oil cooler and can cut and plug the oil filter mount off, however really would like to keep stock oil cooler. Seen others that have cut off the oil filter mount and tapped the holes to 7/16 with 1/4 18 pipe threads and ran a external oil cooler and remote filter setup. Leaning more that direction. Found one already on line setup this way to bolt on. He also has the correct 12 row oil cooler cover I need, however no reply from him yet. As with everything on this engine, nothing has come easy. Can construct my own cut off oil filter plate but really would like to get the oil cooler cover.

[r3dplanet]

I have a Corvair motor that I bought for this conversion also. It's been staring at me in my garage for a year. Do you have more detail on your experiences getting the motor rebuild and 914 ready?

[914coop]

I have a Corvair motor that I bought for this conversion also. It's been staring at me in my garage for a year. Do you have more detail on your experiences getting the motor rebuild and 914 ready?

Most of my issues where with a particular vendor. Purchased his "ultimate Rebuild kit" about a year ago. Never got it and he still owes me money. Deal with Clark's, Raffee, California Corvairs , LS Corvairs, specialty Corvair parts and your build should go smoother. Also have a engine shop put the wrist pins in, the information on the internet was not as easy as they make it sound. Other issues I had where buying pistons that required special rings. After giving up on the original vendor and getting past the wrist pin and ring issues it has went fairly smooth. Cost so far is around $2,750.00 including new reverse rotation cam, adapter plate and flywheel, clutch and pressure plate. With the other vendors this would have been done 6 to 9 months ago.

If you need the name of vendor to avoid pm me.

[Dr Evil]

The wrist pins are interference fit and different for us VW guys. Heat is your friend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like building the Corvair engine. Real easy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[914coop]

The wrist pins are interference fit and different for us VW guys. Heat is your friend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like building the Corvair engine. Real easy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Heat + speed maybe, tried heat and got half way and stopped. Then tried dry ice to go the other direction, no luck there either. Cheap and easy to let someone who knows what their doing.

Once got past the stumbling blocks I agree easy and fun to build.

See if I still feel that way when modifying the filter piece. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[914coop]

Well engine is in the car, not fully secure but in the car. Fits nice as long as you cut off the oil filter mount and remove the original Corvair engine mount plate..
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Made monting it more difficult because of choosing a aluminum finned oil pan which took away a 1 1/4 inch of clearance from the enging mount bar, going to be a tight fit. May have to lower the bar a bit depending on final mount design.

Going to be a bit before it is started. Since I did not take the engine out I need to figure out what wires go where.
Also need to fab up the engine mount and there is the filter mount I cut. I think I have two options, Weld in AN fittings where I cut it off and do a remote filter and cooler. Will need to angle cut at least one of them to allow room to thighten fittings to them. Other option that may work is to weld the holes shut and remove the pressure switch, drill a hole at the other 90 degree angle and add AN fittings there. Then do a remote filter, cooler and pressure switch mount.

Here are pictures of the cut filter and mounting plate.
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Here is the engine before it went into the car.
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Need to find wiring digrams for the engine compartment, Haynes is to small for me to read.

Irv

[Dr Evil]

I can take a pic of my oil setup if you like. Nice and easy. The pressure switch can be moved by using a grease gun hose (good to 3000psi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

[rick 918-S]

Try these diagrams.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm

You can view them on your computer and maybe print large versions that you will be able to see. Wish I had some time to come and help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[914coop]

I can take a pic of my oil setup if you like. Nice and easy. The pressure switch can be moved by using a grease gun hose (good to 3000psi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Yes! Would like to see that.

Thanks Irv.

[914coop]

Try these diagrams.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm

You can view them on your computer and maybe print large versions that you will be able to see. Wish I had some time to come and help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Thanks Rick, that is what I am looking for can view them with my magnifying software..

May be up there over the 4th if everything works out to view the fireworks,. Duluth has a great show.

[rick 918-S]

We should be around. Not sure you will have time to hang around but if call me if you get up anyway.

[Dr Evil]

Here is my setup. I have the lines going to a thermostat and cooler.

[914coop]

Thanks, basically what I came up with yesterday. I will be using AN fittings, should have it together tomorrow.

Thanks for confirming I am on the right track.

Irv

Here is my setup. I have the lines going to a thermostat and cooler.

[914coop]

Oil filter mount modified.

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Engine mount is just about done, hopefully will start it this weekend.

[Dr Evil]

Where is your return going?

I may be turning the key on my science project this weekend as well. Good luck!

[rick 918-S]

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[914coop]

Where is your return going?

I may be turning the key on my science project this weekend as well. Good luck!

Feed is going out through where pressure sender was. I have added AN adapter with gauge fitting there. Welded shut the hole that went to the oil filter on that side. Return will come back from the remote oil filter and external cooler to the other hole left when I cut off the filter connection. Welded a AN fitting there also. Will verify the flow when I prime the system before attempting too start.