Paul's phoenix red restoration Thread, GT clone Options

[scotty b]

These cracks keeps pooping every now and then I must have patched 5 of them already. now one popped up as I am ready to paint. what can cause that and what can I do?

I hate to tell you this but that looks like rust under that crack. Am I wrong? More times than not, people do not do the proper prep work when applying fiberglass panels to steel bodies. I have seen more than my fair share of glass parts pop riveted to bare metal and mudded to shape. Bad form. It will come back to haunt them. Done properly glass panels can l;ast a long time without issue, done improperly, they last about 2 -3 years

[914itis]

These cracks keeps pooping every now and then I must have patched 5 of them already. now one popped up as I am ready to paint. what can cause that and what can I do?

I hate to tell you this but that looks like rust under that crack. Am I wrong? More times than not, people do not do the proper prep work when applying fiberglass panels to steel bodies. I have seen more than my fair share of glass parts pop riveted to bare metal and mudded to shape. Bad form. It will come back to haunt them. Done properly glass panels can l;ast a long time without issue, done improperly, they last about 2 -3 years

No, I just sanded it down and there is no sign of rust. it was just a thin glass applied over the metal to even it out.

[914itis]

oh well its all panted.ni will have pics tomorow. It wasn't too bad with the exception of a couples drips. I hope that wet sand can take them out. How long do I have to wait to wet sand? I am assumng 2000 grit would do it .

[barada]

oh well its all panted.ni will have pics tomorow. It wasn't too bad with the exception of a couples drips. I hope that wet sand can take them out. How long do I have to wait to wet sand? I am assumng 2000 grit would do it .

Get it out in the sun. I would say at least a week, longer is better of course.

[scotty b]

oh well its all panted.ni will have pics tomorow. It wasn't too bad with the exception of a couples drips. I hope that wet sand can take them out. How long do I have to wait to wet sand? I am assumng 2000 grit would do it .

24-48 hours. Start with 1500. go to 2000 then buff

[914itis]

The driver's side door is the one that had most of the drips, I mean bad. I hope wet sand and buffing will do it. The first picture shows the bad door. The bugs also did a number on me, but mustly on the last coat. I gave a total of 5 coats.

[914itis]

Scotty, Andy, What kind of buffer solution do you advise.


Scotty, you mean I can buff it right after the wet sand,( 24-48 hrs) or do I wait a few days.

[Andyrew]

Scotty/ Paul,

The paint takes longer to harden than other paint. Mine was still very soft after a week. The drips I mean.

Those drips are very thick, you have a couple of options, but using 1500 grit IMHO will take forever to take it out. I used 600 grit very carefully on the drip only. Only because I had more runs than you did. Start with 1k grit, then 1500, then 2k.

Buy this from harbor freight.

http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-variab...nder-92623.html
They typically have this on sale for 30. Keep your receipt. Return it when your done and buy another one on sale when it goes on sale because this really is a good buffer.

http://www.harborfreight.com/5-piece-7-inc...-set-94323.html
Buy this for the backing pad.

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-inch-foam-b...-pad-91235.html
This is for buffing.

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-inch-black-...-pad-91236.html
This is for polishing (not buffing)

[914itis]

Andy ,
You think next Friday ok for wet sand? Can I throw a plastic on the paint now as cover or Does the paint need to breath?

[Andyrew]

BTW it looks great!!! Congrats!

Your booth looks pretty neat!

[Andyrew]

Let the paint breathe.

Next friday might be early. However take your fingernail and press it into the paint and see if it makes a dent. If it does, its to early. It should be fairly hard.

[914itis]

Thanks. Couldn't do it that easy without you. Boot is a $99 car port from pepboy then I used platic to cover the sides.

[scotty b]

I west sand and buff single stage within 24 hours. The longer it sits, the harder it gets, thus the harder it is to sand and buff. Yes you need to be careful, but 24 hours is plenty of time for the paint to setup. This one was done within 24 hours, and was cheap single stage, ( PPG shopline ) the equivalent of Nason.

[914itis]

The driver's side door is the one that had most of the drips, I mean bad. I hope wet sand and buffing will do it. The first picture shows the bad door. The bugs also did a number on me, but mustly on the last coat. I gave a total of 5 coats.

Wow Paul that looks great I know what gift to get you
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Thanks Scott. I emailed you about the spoiler you had listed . You never replied. Will PM you my number now .

[914itis]

The driver's side door is the one that had most of the drips, I mean bad. I hope wet sand and buffing will do it. The first picture shows the bad door. The bugs also did a number on me, but mustly on the last coat. I gave a total of 5 coats.

Wow Paul that looks great I know what gift to get you
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Thanks Scott. I emailed you about the spoiler you had listed . You never replied. Will PM you my number now .

The spoiler is yours My gift (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) I'll need to drop it off in person and see your work

Sure. Let me know when you are available.

[914itis]

I think I f$%*cked up, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) the paint is completely dry. I decided to wet sand, and noticed that I have more drips than I assumed, and they are bad. picture # 2 shows what happened as i try to sand one down with 1500 grit. You are looking at the primer.

I also have a lot of those small spots all over the hood due to bugs shown on pic #1.


What is my option?

1, do I sand all the drips and repaint?
2, do I need to prime again when sanded
3, is it safe now to sand over the fresh paint? any reactions wait time etc..

4, as far as the dots on pic #1, will the compound take them out?

experts weight in please..

[Andyrew]

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[914itis]

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[Andyrew]

Try putting the sandpaper on a mixing stick and being careful to only touch the run. This is what I did, then I went over it with the block after I got it to the level of the rest of the paint and just hit it rally light.

Also realize that the paint above a run will be much thinner than paint on the run.

Also to answer questions

1. Sand all the drips, repaint if your through. You can spot repaint the area, or repaint the whole pannel. You probably used 1/2 a gallon? You have plenty to respray those area's or even the whole car.

2. No you dont have to re-primer.

3. You should be fine as long as the paint is 100% hard. I would wait till friday or so, leaving the paint in the sun the whole week then wet sanding it down to say 320 (you can wet sand now that you have the metalwork sealed with a sealing primer).

[Andyrew]

Oh and the bugs, you probably wont get all the bug out of the paint but you can get most of it. Thats just a downside of a DIY paint job. I have probably 3 bugs/legs/dots in my paint that are obvious to me, but to everyone else it just looks like a piece of dirt thats on the paint.