 Just Inherited My Grandpa's 1970's Porsche 914 HELP ME! Pi |
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| franco858 |
 Jul 1 2011, 05:39 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California  |
Hello and thank you for looking at my post. I just inherited my grandpa's 1970's Porsche 914 and am trying to get an idea on it's value and I also have some questions. I've included some pictures so all of you experts can share your knowledge. I was told by my grandfather that this is a 1972 model, however, after researching paint colors from that year I could not find this particular color. With that said, my questions are below and I would grealty appreciate and and all feedback. Thanks!
1. What year is this car 2. What is it's approximate value More imporant info: 1. This car has been stored in California since day 1, thus theres no rust underneath the car 2. The odometer reads 54K and so I am assuming the car has 154k miles on it 3. I was told that the engine was completely rebuilt about 5-7 years ago If there's any important info I've left out, please let me know and I will try and get it to you guys. Thanks again! -Franco (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309563594.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309563594.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309563595.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309563595.4.jpg) |
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| franco858 |
Jul 1 2011, 05:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California |
More pictures
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| Gint |
Jul 1 2011, 05:44 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,095 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
It's a 72 That preceding 472 in the VIN (stamped on that tag in the front trunk from your last pic) indicates the year.
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| KELTY360 |
Jul 1 2011, 05:45 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,099 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Looks like a '72 to me. Movable passenger seat and no bumper tits + body colored bumper points in that direction. What is the VIN, it would be on the driver's door jamb and the driver's side windshield pillar.
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| franco858 |
Jul 1 2011, 05:55 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jul 1 2011, 04:45 PM)  Looks like a '72 to me. Movable passenger seat and no bumper tits + body colored bumper points in that direction. What is the VIN, it would be on the driver's door jamb and the driver's side windshield pillar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Thanks for such quick replies! Any ballpark figure on value or the best avenue (no car pun intended) to sell it? Thanks! |
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| Tom_T |
Jul 1 2011, 05:55 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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First thing, take some pix of the VIN sticker on the rear driver's door jamb & the Karmann Plate on the front door jamb on that side (latter has the paint code stamped into in lower box & chassis # in top box which can be decoded to a build date), & the chassis # is also stamped into the rear of the rear trunk on the passenger side. Also check the VIN at the tag next to the driver side A-pillar, on the plate on the inside of the passenger headlight box & stamped on top of the pass. wheel housing (latter 2 are in the front trunk). From the plate on the headlight box which you just posted - it's a 1972 - not a 1970 as in your topic title, which would have the 1.7L 4 cyl. motor. Your Grandpa could've had it repainted that color, or could've ordered it new in a special order color (if paint code 98 or 99 at Karmann Plate). Changing 914 colors was a fashion statement in your grandpa's & my day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) With those ID numbers we can determine the original color of your grandpa's 914, as well as it's model year - then onto value .... Here are 2 online sources you can look up for a general range of values: http://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/bu...guide/856880138 http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/ ... enter your zip code & make/model/year info & it will give you pricing that the dealers use to determine trade-in value or sale price. Welcome to the fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) PS - better try driving it on some fun twisty roads - maybe over to Santa Cruz the back way - before you decide to sell it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) It may just be too much fun for you Franco! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| franco858 |
Jul 1 2011, 05:56 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California |
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| KELTY360 |
Jul 1 2011, 05:58 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,099 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Tom, he indicated it was a 1970's Porsche in the title; not 1970 MY.
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| Tom_T |
Jul 1 2011, 06:01 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jul 1 2011, 04:58 PM) Tom, he indicated it was a 1970's Porsche in the title; not 1970 MY. Thanx Marc ..... .... damn [my] eyes! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ... to borrow from Young Frankenstein! ... that's Fraanken-steen! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| franco858 |
Jul 1 2011, 06:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks! Keep the info coming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Is this a Targa 1.7 or 2.0?
On a side note, I love the 70's style!! I will get pics of all the #'s suggested above. Looking at the websites provided it looks like the value can range from $7,000-$11,000. Does that sound right? |
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| hydroliftin |
Jul 1 2011, 06:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 8-November 06 From: Vallejo, CA Member No.: 7,180 Region Association: Northern California |
Franco,
As to the value of the car, the market for these cars is pretty soft right now. It could bring anywhere from $2,000 to $5,000 depending on physical and mechanical condition. You can get an idea of what people are asking on Craig's List. If it is running okay the best payback you can get is to keep it and drive it. There are a lot of folks here in the Bay Area who are in various states of restoring or maintaining these cars. Bring it by for one of the 914 breakfasts and we can fill you in on the joys and challenges of owning a 914. |
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| rohar |
Jul 1 2011, 06:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: 25-October 08 From: spokane Member No.: 9,685 Region Association: None |
All 914s are targas. That's the roof configuration (removable hard top). Hard to tell the engine without the full vin.
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| Tom_T |
Jul 1 2011, 06:05 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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PS Franco - although they weren't offered on the 1972 MY 914s, those alloy wheels are worth $500-1000 alone - depending upon condition & if 4 or 5 (spare too) in the set, assuming they're the real Fuchs & not repro. So add that to whatever your price you get in the references I gave you (their prices probably wouldn't consider alloy wheels at all, not even the Pedrinis offer for 72's).
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| hydroliftin |
Jul 1 2011, 06:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 8-November 06 From: Vallejo, CA Member No.: 7,180 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(franco858 @ Jul 1 2011, 05:02 PM) Thanks! Keep the info coming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Is this a Targa 1.7 or 2.0? On a side note, I love the 70's style!! I will get pics of all the #'s suggested above. Looking at the websites provided it looks like the value can range from $7,000-$11,000. Does that sound right? One of the members recently purchased, I think it was a '74 2 litre, for $11,000. It looked like it had just driven off the show room floor. It was like new. So, yes some 4 cylinder 914's can bring $11,000 but they are in very very good condition. |
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| Tom_T |
Jul 1 2011, 06:20 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(franco858 @ Jul 1 2011, 05:02 PM) Thanks! Keep the info coming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Is this a Targa 1.7 or 2.0? On a side note, I love the 70's style!! I will get pics of all the #'s suggested above. Looking at the websites provided it looks like the value can range from $7,000-$11,000. Does that sound right? As noted above - all 914s started as Targas, but some have done mods - including some whacked off convertables, etc.! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) 2.0 didn't come out until 1973 model year, so yours wouldn't be 2.0L unless your Grandpa changed the engine out for a 2.0 or did a 1.7 big bore when it was rebuilt a few years ago. A more common up-build for a 1.7 would be to 1911 cc - so check his paperwork from the shop to see what they did. BTW - the 70-72 1.7s were almost as powerful as the later smogged-up 75-76 2.0s, at 80 vs 88 HP respectively. The NADA Classic Cars one will give you a better picture, and your Grandpa's wouldn't be at the upper end, cuz those are pretty perfect to fetch $11k for a 72 1.7 like yours. As we've said - drive it a bit first, you just might like it - ALOT! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Get some of the Bay Area 914 folks to help you go over the car for rust & any other issues, as there are a bunch of "Teeners" in your area. http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/zTN_Gen_914CAF.pdf Here are some great 914 info websites (in addition to here & the 914 info button at the top of this page) - p914.com http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/ (Jeff Bowlsby is across the Bay & inland) Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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| hot_shoe914 |
Jul 1 2011, 06:41 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,806 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
QUOTE 2.0 didn't come out until 1973 model year, Actually the 2.0 was out in 1970, it just happened to have a couple of extra cylinders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| Tom_T |
Jul 1 2011, 07:48 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(hot_shoe914 @ Jul 1 2011, 05:41 PM) QUOTE 2.0 didn't come out until 1973 model year, Actually the 2.0 was out in 1970, it just happened to have a couple of extra cylinders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) .... but not usually referred to as the 914 2.0 ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Franco - this 72 FS on Craig's List just popped up on 914club in your area for $11k. You could go see it, request pix, etc. to compare to yours & track whether he gets $11k or less. Seller may even tell you & work with you, if you tell him that you're trying to figure out what your Grandpa's 914 is worth. http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=275344 |
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| franco858 |
Jul 1 2011, 08:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 1-July 11 From: San Francisco Member No.: 13,268 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks for all the info guys! Here are some new pics of #'s I was actually able to find on the vehicle.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309572573.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309572573.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309572573.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i249.photobucket.com-13268-1309572574.4.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 1 2011, 08:22 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,954 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(franco858 @ Jul 1 2011, 07:09 PM) Thanks for all the info guys! Here are some new pics of #'s I was actually able to find on the vehicle. L96D, originally silver metallic. I knew it didn't look like a stock 914 color. I can see overspray too. Repaints are usually less desirable. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=colors Without having seen the car in person, if it's running OK and everything checks out, i'd say it may be in the $5k range. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| ellisor3 |
Jul 1 2011, 08:23 PM
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HPWhore Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 23-October 08 From: Fleming Island, Florida Member No.: 9,683 Region Association: South East States  |
L96D would make it originally Silver Metallic
The Vin would make it a relatively early 72 and probably a 1.7 |
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