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| MattR |
 Jul 7 2004, 08:31 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California  |
QUOTE(skline @ Jul 5 2004, 07:54 AM) ...I hit 100 on the 405 this morning with out a problem... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I cant even get up to 20 on the 405... |
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Jul 7 2004, 10:26 PM
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Miss Mari's slave Group: Members Posts: 437 Joined: 28-March 03 From: sierra nevada ,cali . Member No.: 490 |
i may be brain dead but has the price of 914-6's evaluated that much in europe?
a clean example converted to an early 2.0 or 2.2 six seems to be exactly what you are looking for. less headaches and it has the correct engine for the car. jt |
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| grantsfo |
Jul 8 2004, 01:10 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
I have always thought the 1NZ-FE 1.5 liter from Toyota Yaris/Echo would be a fun engine for 914. Its one of the lightest 1.5 liter engines ever made and makes 105 ft lbs of torque and 108 HP. The engine in my 2000 lb Toyota Echo returns consistent 40 mpg combined Highway and City and thats with 16 inch wheels and fat tires. I have turned in 48 mpg highway once. Its got a pretty wide power band for a 1.5 becuase of VVTi feature. Lots of tuner parts for the engine as well - including superchargers and turbo's.
Easy to find low mileage examples of this engine from crashed cars for $500-$600. (IMG:http://www.getti.co.jp/netz/engine/image/01.jpg) |
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| Powaqqatsi |
Jul 8 2004, 08:10 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,302 |
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Jul 7 2004, 05:03 AM) Hey Powaq, Which car did you find??? Be extra carefull... this is a tricky price range and you could very well buy a shiny piece of rust... If you wan't you can call me and I'll give you some pointers on where/what to look for cheers, Jeroen Hey, I found a 2.0 in Den Haag. If I hear something back from the seller I'll PM you (He is a bit slow in answering his email). Johan I already checked the Koopjeskrant, I found a few 914's ranging from 9000 to 12000 euros. A bit insane if you ask me. I was also thinking about engine conversions again. Would this even be legal in Europe ? I think you need to get your car homologated and it would be considerd a new car. Dunno. Anybody know something about this ? |
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| Jeroen |
Jul 8 2004, 08:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Hey Powaq,
Den Haag is pretty close to where I live (I live south of Rotterdam, about 45 mins from Den Haag) Who is the seller? If you like, and depending on when you are going to look at the car, I could come with you or you can stop at my house first, so I can show you some pointers on where and what to look for. You can also check www.marktplaats.nl Select cars, then Porsche and search for 914 There are 3 cars posted there that I know are very good (although a bit more expensive between 8 and 9K and they are further up north - near Arnhem) As for engine conversions... I don't know about the specifics in Belgium, but here in the Netherlands, you can do any conversion you like without a new homologation if you keep the same number of cilinders. If the number of cilinders changes, you need a new homologation. cheers, Jeroen |
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| rhodyguy |
Jul 8 2004, 08:46 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,193 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
on the displacement issue and the related costs, how would the authorities know what the true displacement was with a case marked for a 1.7 if you went with a t-4 engine? how strict is the visual inspection of the car? would emissions play a part in licencing the car?
kevin |
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| Powaqqatsi |
Jul 8 2004, 08:57 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,302 |
http://www.marktnet.nl/ad.asp?Id=46430 This is the one I sent an email to. The name used in the email is Arjen Kuyvenhoven.
8000 to 9000 is really out of my budget. I want to go 6000 euro. |
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| Bigbohr |
Jul 8 2004, 10:14 AM
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Superlurker Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,176 |
Heb jij geluk zeg ... het is een "harde auto". Ik hoop voor jou dat dat betekent dat hij hard rijdt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
72 = tailshifter tranny |
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| Powaqqatsi |
Jul 8 2004, 10:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,302 |
QUOTE(Bigbohr @ Jul 8 2004, 08:14 AM) Heb jij geluk zeg ... het is een "harde auto". Ik hoop voor jou dat dat betekent dat hij hard rijdt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) 72 = tailshifter tranny Yeah, I really wonder what "harde auto" means (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . They DO have weird sayings over there. What do you mean with tailshifter ? Is that a good or bad thing ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Bigbohr |
Jul 8 2004, 10:42 AM
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Superlurker Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 1,176 |
I don't think it's necessarily bad but a side-shifter would be better. People with a tail shifter please chime in ... (I have a side shifter).
The shift linkage connects to the back of a tailshifter (72 and earlier 914's). Makes shifting a bit more imprecise, and you need to pay more attention to your bushings and adjustments compared to the side shifter. From 73 onwards 914's were fitted with a side-shifter. The shifting linkage connects on the (lower) side of the tranny. Shifting is more precise. It seems like you're interested to get a modern drivetrain in the car so a sideshifter may go better with that. It's pretty easy to get a used side shift tranny in the US. Costs maybe $200-$300. Over there I don't know ... |
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| Jeroen |
Jul 8 2004, 01:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
"harde auto" means as much as "rust free" (you don't pay extra for the rust (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif))
Did the seller give you any info on the engine and transmission Like mentioned, 72 means a 1.7 fuel injected engine and a tailshifter transmission The side shifter tranny is often called a "2 liter bak" in Dutch. A side shifter does shift better (less vague) than a tailshifter. Still a lot depends on the shift bushings etc. Don't rush into anything you're gonna regret. You seriously need to educate yourself about these little cars Go drive a couple. Try different ones. Don't be lured in by the price (a low price often has a reason) You'll often find that the owners/sellers know as little or even less than you do about these cars and they will come up with all sorts of bullshit stories and make-believe-upgrades which are usually down-grades or crappy repairs... cheers, Jeroen |
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| Powaqqatsi |
Jul 8 2004, 02:29 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Belgium Member No.: 2,302 |
Nope he didn't mention anything about the transmission (I never asked anything about it..). But I'm still waiting for his reply to my question if I could come over and take a look at it.
A question I have here: the specs page on this site (914 Info) says that there never was a 1972 2.0 4-cyl ? Production of this type started in 1973, right ? All I can do for now is wait for answers. I also found a few cars in Belgium, inlcuding a six-cylinder for 6500 euro, the only problem with that car is that it seems to be disassembled for I reason I do not know (yet). But the seller does claim that it has a re-build engine. Is there any way of knowing whether it is indeed rebuild or not ? Just look at the "cleanness" of the engine ? |
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| Jeroen |
Jul 8 2004, 02:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Nope... Unless he has an invoice for the work done on the engine, you won't know
Know that any 6 cylinder will have a mileage of between 1:5 and 1:7 (1 liter to x km's) Also, if you need to rebuild that engine, count on doubling the price of the car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) cheers, Jeroen |
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