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| IanJ |
 Jul 13 2014, 05:46 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Perth, Western Australia Member No.: 5,327 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand  |
Awesome build. Do you have any more details on the clutch setup? Some close up picks of the linkage or a diagram would be great thanks.
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| rnellums |
Jul 22 2014, 08:41 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
A bit of a setback! I had the car running and driving great and was in the middle of installing some EXCELLENT gauges from Kent, when I smelled some smoke. I lean out of the car and the harness by the left headlight is spewing smoke! Now I have got to weed through the entire harness forward of the firewall and replace wiring!
I do have some good news though! A new toy came up for sale through a co-worker at a price I couldn't say no to! say hello to my new semi-mid-engined daily! a 2003 S2000 with 76k original miles with a red leather interior and the factory hardtop (something of a rarity). I am its 3rd owner! Attached image(s)  
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| brant |
Jul 22 2014, 10:14 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,826 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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thats my favorite color combo
I've been looking casually for one good score! brant |
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| rnellums |
Jul 26 2014, 01:17 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Pretty productive day today! I repaired the wiring harness and was able to get the car running again! Then I drove it over to a friend's shop and used his scan tool to check the CEL codes listed below:
P0463 Fuel level sensor a circuit high input P1698 manufacturer controlled computer output circuit P0691 Fan 1 control circuit low P0866 Tcm communication circuit high P0447 Evap emission open P0037 Heated o2 sensor heater control circuit low bank 1 sensor 2 Doesn't look like anything too serious. My fan still has never kicked on, but the temp gauge is staying right in the middle. I also did some more dash work. Kent sent me a subie Speedo and a tach already mounted in 914 tach cans which look awesome. Unfortunately the Speedo hole won't fit the tach size, so I put a differentsubie Speedo into the stock Speedo can. It is definitely harder to read, but less cutting. Attached thumbnail(s)    
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| 76-914 |
Jul 26 2014, 08:00 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,648 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Looks great, Ross. BTW, re: P0691; in that you are running single speed fans I wonder what would happen if you connected both grounds (hi-lo) together. Maybe the ECU doesn't see that ground. FWIW, I had P0037 code before I dropped the engine from the donor. No CEL's from the missing 3rd 02 sensor? Great job, Ross. Enjoyed your build.
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| Chris H. |
Jul 26 2014, 08:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,050 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Sweet! How's the power?
You can probably search what those mean on a subie site and see how they handled them. rs25.com has a lot of conversions. I'd check the "high" circuits for sure, sounds like too much juice going through them but it might mean something totally different. Also that o2 sensor connection should be checked...loose or frayed wire maybe. You want that one good so the engine runs right. Did you clear them off and re-run them by chance? BTW your tach is upside down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (I know, I know). |
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| rnellums |
Jul 27 2014, 09:28 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Jul 26 2014, 08:00 AM)  Looks great, Ross. BTW, re: P0691; in that you are running single speed fans I wonder what would happen if you connected both grounds (hi-lo) together. Maybe the ECU doesn't see that ground. FWIW, I had P0037 code before I dropped the engine from the donor. No CEL's from the missing 3rd 02 sensor? Great job, Ross. Enjoyed your build. This was a great idea! I combined all three Fan relay grounds so the fan will kick on when any of them satisfy their loading conditions. It works beautifully. The fan kick on fairly infrequently and then kicks back of after a minute or two! Great tip! QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jul 26 2014, 08:00 AM) Sweet! How's the power? You can probably search what those mean on a subie site and see how they handled them. rs25.com has a lot of conversions. I'd check the "high" circuits for sure, sounds like too much juice going through them but it might mean something totally different. Also that o2 sensor connection should be checked...loose or frayed wire maybe. You want that one good so the engine runs right. Did you clear them off and re-run them by chance? BTW your tach is upside down (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (I know, I know). The power is intoxicating! I rarely put the hammer down in first because its over too quickly. In second when you mash it the power just keeps coming, with the most seeming to come in the 4-6.5k range! I haven't done any more work with the codes, but once I ground out the fuel level sender and finish the fan wiring I'll clear them and see what comes back. The engine has been running flawlessly, I put 50-60 miles on it this weekend with short trips and tweaks in between and plan to continue putting on as many as possible prior to RRC! On a downer note, the remoted gauges don't work. I'm going to pull them out of the dash tonight and make sure I had them hooked up properly, but I wasn't getting any movement out of them at all. for now I'm driving with the subie gauge pack in the passenger footwell and mostly just gauging speed by flow of traffic! |
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| JRust |
Jul 27 2014, 09:38 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Just download the ulysee speedometer app on your phone. Works great for temporary speedo until you get yours figured out. Just works off the GPS plus has a HUD feature if you want to use it at night. Just set the phone on your dash at night
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| rnellums |
Jul 27 2014, 09:52 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(JRust @ Jul 27 2014, 09:38 PM) Just download the ulysee speedometer app on your phone. Works great for temporary speedo until you get yours figured out. Just works off the GPS plus has a HUD feature if you want to use it at night. Just set the phone on your dash at night Already have it! but how to keep it from sliding across my dash and out the window in high-g turns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)? |
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| rnellums |
Jul 27 2014, 10:05 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
A diagram with measurements for my clutch pull bellcrank. I also cut about an inch out of the throw out arm itself so it would clear the trunk without cutting.
I ran the stock cable under the engine, pulling it pretty tightly against the bottom of Ian's subframe. With these ratios the clutch pedal requires a bit less force than the stock 914. I'm running a stock clutch pack out of a 97 base outback and its holding the power fine so far. We'll see how it goes as time goes on. Attached image(s) 
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| JRust |
Jul 27 2014, 10:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 27 2014, 08:52 PM) QUOTE(JRust @ Jul 27 2014, 09:38 PM) Just download the ulysee speedometer app on your phone. Works great for temporary speedo until you get yours figured out. Just works off the GPS plus has a HUD feature if you want to use it at night. Just set the phone on your dash at night Already have it! but how to keep it from sliding across my dash and out the window in high-g turns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)? With my Samsung s5 in it's case. It jams into the space with all 3 vent controls to the right. It will jam in there & not move. Of course that puts your fan on high but I've used that many times. I also had the 3d print mount for my cup holder. That worked great too until I broke it. Then got the little bigger s5 phone anyway. Need to see if he is making that adapter yet. LOL |
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| rnellums |
Jul 27 2014, 10:26 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(JRust @ Jul 27 2014, 10:23 PM) With my Samsung s5 in it's case. It jams into the space with all 3 vent controls to the right. It will jam in there & not move. Of course that puts your fan on high but I've used that many times. I also had the 3d print mount for my cup holder. That worked great too until I broke it. Then got the little bigger s5 phone anyway. Need to see if he is making that adapter yet. LOL Sorry that it broke! I'll have to see about printing with a stronger material next time!! |
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| rnellums |
Jul 28 2014, 12:15 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(rnellums @ Jul 27 2014, 09:28 PM) On a downer note, the remoted gauges don't work. I'm going to pull them out of the dash tonight and make sure I had them hooked up properly, but I wasn't getting any movement out of them at all. for now I'm driving with the subie gauge pack in the passenger footwell and mostly just gauging speed by flow of traffic! I revise my previous statement! When I was making the speedo I re-positioned the needle, which was giving an erroneous reading! one re-positioned correctly its working (at least a bit). On the tach, one of the pins has come out just a bit and had to be re-inserted. Not a big deal and now all is well! |
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| 76-914 |
Jul 30 2014, 07:28 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,648 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Hey Ross, anything to report yet on the heat or absence of heat from the longs. Re: your speedo, you said it's kinda of working. Be sure the needle has clearance from the glass. That one bit me.
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| rnellums |
Aug 3 2014, 01:07 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Jul 30 2014, 07:28 PM) Hey Ross, anything to report yet on the heat or absence of heat from the longs. Re: your speedo, you said it's kinda of working. Be sure the needle has clearance from the glass. That one bit me. I can reach down and feel the return pipe from the drivers seat and tell when it's getting got, so far it definitely hadn't been unbearable though. I do think that I'm going to start working on an engine mounted radiator though as I have time. It will make everything so much more convenient! As far as the gauges go the problem is primarily the pins in the back of the gauges coming slightly undone. The Speedo is working pretty reliably, but the teach is only running to 3k or so before the needle starts moving the other direction (engine goes faster). I also could be more excited about the night lighting color (greenish) but I really can't complain because Kent's work has saved me load of trouble! |
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| rnellums |
Aug 3 2014, 09:11 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
YouTube link to some exhaust notes. Not quite as pretty as Kent's I'm afraid.
Exhaust noise: http://youtu.be/CayDApPDJ98 |
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| 76-914 |
Aug 4 2014, 08:36 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,648 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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I love it! Sounds fantastic. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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| rnellums |
Aug 6 2014, 10:07 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,667 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I went on a 50 mile cruise with a buddy this evening. We did a couple of highway pulls pitting my subie 3.0 against his twin turbo 2009 335. I pulled away every time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Im seeing 3.5 k rpm or so at up on the highway, and the exhaust note Is a bit droning at that pace.
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| 76-914 |
Aug 7 2014, 08:22 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,648 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(rnellums @ Aug 6 2014, 09:07 PM) I went on a 50 mile cruise with a buddy this evening. We did a couple of highway pulls pitting my subie 3.0 against his twin turbo 2009 335. I pulled away every time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Im seeing 3.5 k rpm or so at up on the highway, and the exhaust note Is a bit droning at that pace. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) I'm waiting on another throttle cable. They sent the wrong one, yesterday. Your killing me, Ross. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I've only done a partial pull in second, thus far. So, did your friend make excuses or offer to buy your car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| 1stworks |
Aug 7 2014, 08:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rnellums @ Aug 6 2014, 10:07 PM) I went on a 50 mile cruise with a buddy this evening. We did a couple of highway pulls pitting my subie 3.0 against his twin turbo 2009 335. I pulled away every time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Im seeing 3.5 k rpm or so at up on the highway, and the exhaust note Is a bit droning at that pace. Very impressive! !!! I could b super happy with that :-) any changes in handling? ? Scotty |
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