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> Rick - I need your help, chassis twist
TravisNeff
post Mar 17 2012, 10:57 PM
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So the front cowl has definately fell in. The rear targa bar on the drivers side, I think fell in too. I remember having to reaseal the rear window after my welding extravaganza

Seals and stricker plates are out of the doors. You would think there are more issues on the driver side with the tight gap, measurements prove it's the passenger side with the biggest problem
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post Mar 18 2012, 12:01 PM
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Hey Travis, Just wanted to let you know I saw this post. I will comment on it later. I have to head out for awhile.
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post Mar 18 2012, 06:31 PM
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Racine, WI is a little closer than AZ but this is how he hooked me up.



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post Mar 18 2012, 07:35 PM
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Dont show pics of Rick. He aint that pretty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 18 2012, 08:35 PM) *

Dont show pics of Rick. He aint that pretty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)


Hey! I resemble that remark! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Anywho, The photos show the issue pretty well. If you were closer I would drive over and tweek it for you. But for now all I can suggest is to do your best and try to un-do the issue.

Normally You could tweek the chassis with a port-o-power or my turnbuckle tool like John's car. But after the chassis stiffeners are welded when you try to push the chassis it bends in places it most likely shouldn't. This only makes matters worse.

So what I would suggest is to figure out where you went wrong and back up to that point. This may require cutting through the stiffener to weaken the car enough to bend it back in place.

This tool works very well. If you want I'll put it in a cardboard tube and ship to you. You pay shipping both ways. It's heavy and shipping won't be cheap.


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My second suggestion would be to see if there is a local body shop that has one and would either loan or rent it to you. You can move a door opening with very little effort.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:13 PM
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Travis, I'll be over in 5. We'll have it straight by morning.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:20 PM
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Travis, I'll be over in 5. We'll have it straight by morning.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:23 PM
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My plan is to cut through the stiffening kit at the cowl on both sides. push out the passenger side first, then driver side. next make a cut in the stiffening kit at the rear of the drivers door and push the drivers side targa bar back.

Sound like the right approach?
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Mar 18 2012, 10:23 PM) *

My plan is to cut through the stiffening kit at the cowl on both sides. push out the passenger side first, then driver side. next make a cut in the stiffening kit at the rear of the drivers door and push the drivers side targa bar back.

Sound like the right approach?


That sounds reasonable. But you should be sure to put in a support through the door opening before you weld again.

Edit: also pull the catches off the "B" pillar so you car adjust the doors without any interference from the latch. Once your done welding and the doors swing free and line up you can replace the catch.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:41 PM
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So I will make my cuts here in the front


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post Mar 18 2012, 09:50 PM
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Show me the stiffeners. I would likely cut the stiffeners not the stock inner longs.
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:53 PM
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That is the stiffener...
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post Mar 18 2012, 09:58 PM
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LOL, you're looking right at them. i did my best to make it look like i never installed one - and yes, i would only cut through the stiffener and not through the longs.


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post Mar 18 2012, 10:02 PM
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LOL, you're looking right at them. i did my best to make it look like i never installed one - and yes, i would only cut through the stiffener and not through the longs.


Oh, ya ok... Yes just through the stiffener. Be sure to remove the catches. Take your time. Measure twice then measure again. Make yourself a diagram to keep track of your progress. Brace the openings after you get them set before welding. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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post Mar 18 2012, 10:59 PM
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Rear catches are out, front quarter windows & caps are out too. door panels tomorrow and let the cutting begin.

one last question, i will put the porta power at the base of the long and the rear firewall, the front, I presume that i will push on the panel flange at the upper hinge height (or should it be higher?)
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post Mar 18 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Mar 18 2012, 11:59 PM) *

Rear catches are out, front quarter windows & caps are out too. door panels tomorrow and let the cutting begin.

one last question, i will put the porta power at the base of the long and the rear firewall, the front, I presume that i will push on the panel flange at the upper hinge height (or should it be higher?)


Stay about the upper hinge height. Use blocks of wood or thick rubber pads and watch to see that your not crushing the pressure points where the port-o-power cintacts the body. The windsheild frame should be in the right place. Don't tweek that unless your vent window is binding. It shouldn't be..
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post Mar 19 2012, 08:05 AM
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I'd like to see a lot of pictures of how this works.

I did the same thing to my passenger side when I welded in my Engman.

The door closes fine but the gap is really small.

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post Mar 19 2012, 08:57 AM
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I will be documenting this all the way through, good, bad or indifferent. i know there are a lot of people on here that have run into an issue with a bent tub
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post Mar 19 2012, 07:38 PM
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I did my cuts like I showed you before, only cutting through the stiffening kit. I pushed out the passenger cowl - going very slowly, rechecking the door fit and top. the passenger side might need a little more, but I decided to do the drivers side a push and looks like I am going in the right direction.

heading back out to take some measurements and snap y'all a couple of pics.
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post Mar 19 2012, 09:11 PM
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the car on jackstands, notice that i have the jackstands behind the cowl, this will give me a little more leverage


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