CV Joints, Where to buy???? Options

[jPs]

Hi all,

Where's the best place to buy the decent quality CV Joints at the best price?

My pass. side started popping about a week ago and knew I probably needed replacements but on a short cruise this morning that all got reinforced as the pass side (tire side) broke. After jacking up the teener and starting to take out the half shaft the transmission side balls and cage just feel to the concrete. So it appears I need both ends and guess I just as well replace the drivers side while I'm going through the process.

A VW friend told me he got an entire replacement 1/2 shaft for only about $30 more than him ordering just the CV's when his went out in his VW truck. I know mines type IV but there's not a whole lotta places locally that stock this stuff so any parts houses that you can recommend are appreciated and will any VW 1/2's work?

[Dr Evil]

I just contacted this guy to see if he can manufacture adaptors for us. If he can for $140 that would be pretty great IMHO.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=7924947847

[Dr Evil]

What VW type is the bus? I am looking into prices for the whole axle to generate a price idea for conversion.

[ArtechnikA]

What VW type is the bus?

II

[Dr Evil]

II

Thanks dude!

The guy has already emailed me back and believes that he can do it. I think so too, and it may even be less because there will be no cost for studs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[Mueller]

Dr Evil,

you can buy those adapters from Scott @ Renengade Hybrids.....they don't look all that difficult to make, I just have not had a reason to make 'em since I was told he has them available

[Dr Evil]

The parameters that I am using for my search of a axle are: '76 VW type II 2.0

Auto parts giant has the whole axle with cv and everything for $56.60 each so for a whole set up it looks like it may be around (140+56.6(2)=) about $260 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) There is a $35 core charge each, but you can get used ones form the junk yard for like $10 a set. That sounds good to me. If anyone is interested let me know so I can give this guy an estimate on how many might be needed. He may be able to lower the price for a larger order. I wont be ordering these, you all will have to make your own orders. I am just trying to see if this is a good idea.

[Dr Evil]

Mike,
Are they less than $140? I'm gonna go check it out.
THX

[Cap'n Krusty]

Note: Blatant AD! I have 20 new 914/4 CV joints available. $85 and freight, each. There MAY be a couple more back in the monster stash I bought, but I wouldn't count on it. Nice plug n' play deal with no fooling around with drills, adapters, different axles, what have you. The Cap'n

Nine gone...................... These are in genuine Porsche boxes, NOS, and are not gonna be there forever, guys. 3 pounds of good German steel! New, not put together out of old worn out pieces and new boot kits .............. The Cap'n

[Dr Evil]

Looking for data! I emailed Scott at Renegade, no answer yet and the adaptors are not listed in the catalog. Pelican has the set for $730 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I need the bolt pattern for the bus CV, and the bolt pattern for the 901 flange. I have the latter that I could measure, but not accurately enough.
I also need the difference in length between the bus and 914 axle so that I can figure out how thick the adaptors can be. Any measurements would be greatly accepted.

[Dr Evil]

More info: The type 2 bus joint has approx 12-17 degrees of bend radius and cost less than the type 4 bus axle which has a bend radius of 21 degrees.
Which would be better for our purposes?
There are parts compadability between the type four bus CV and the 924, 944, 951, and type 411.
What years are the TIV busses? What else are they called? Campervan?
THX

[ArtechnikA]

The type 2 bus joint has approx 12-17 degrees of bend radius and cost less than the type 4 bus axle which has a bend radius of 21 degrees.

you'd need to work out the angularity of the suspension travel.

as long as you're getting data, make sure you get the number for total allowed axial travel. exceeding that number will kill a CV in a flash...

[Dr Evil]

as long as you're getting data, make sure you get the number for total allowed axial travel.

What is that? The in and out dimention?

[Cap'n Krusty]

More info: The type 2 bus joint has approx 12-17 degrees of bend radius and cost less than the type 4 bus axle which has a bend radius of 21 degrees.
Which would be better for our purposes?
There are parts compadability between the type four bus CV and the 924, 944, 951, and type 411.
What years are the TIV busses? What else are they called? Campervan?
THX

ALL the busses are called Type 2. Even the Vanagons have a coding beginning with 2. IRS Busses and Vanagons ALL take the SAME CV joint. I dunno where you got the difference, unless you are speaking of the Type 4 , which is a bloated type 3 and the original home of the Type 4 engine we all know and love. Type 4s were available in the USA from my 1970 through my 1974. Most were automatics. The Type 4 uses Type 1 (Bug) CV joints. Type 1 CVs fit 914s, but don't have the roll pins and were made to take about 60-70HP. Bus joints don't have pins either.
You need to think about the angular loading, the minimum and maximum axle lengths, the suspension travel, and the torque in making your choices. Even having the pins doesn't seem to help the 914 CVs. A well known 914 driver had a bunch of CV failures in showroom stock back in 74-75, but ONLY after changing to Koni shocks. Leads me to think there are a lot of factors we haven't even considered. The Cap'n
BTW, I looked briefly at the listings for some of the other cars you mentioned, and all are different.

[Dr Evil]

Hey Krust,
Here is one of my sources for my cross data.
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~levitte/rescue-...porsche924.html
Scroll down to the CV part. Lemme know what you think.
THX

[Gary]

Have you guys considered contacting Jim Smolka? He makes adapters for early 911 axles to 914 tranny flange. With a '69 to '72 911 hub and stub axle, you'd be set. I'm also looking into the sportomatic tranny flange option that Karl mentioned earlier.

[Dr Evil]

Gary,
The 911 axles cost more, and handle the same amount of tourque that the bus ones do. They are also roughly the same size thus, it makes more phiscal sense to convert to less expensive, redily available VW bus axles, than the more expensive 911 ones, IMHO. I am not 100% and am great at being wrong though. How much are the ones from Jim?
Mike

[jPs]

Well the fedex dude delivered the ones I ordered from Brian today and I sure can't complain as they looked GREAT especially considering the price...a mere $125 + shipping.

Haven't hooked them up yet but sizing them up to the originals and they look like a match. Same size balls, cage, cups and shaft....the wife even concured (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Can't wait to have my teener back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[Dr Evil]

The adaptors from Renegade are $280, FYI. Just found out.

[lagunero]

Haven't hooked them up yet but sizing them up to the originals and they look like a match. Same size balls, cage, cups and shaft....the wife even concured (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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[Cap'n Krusty]

Hey Krust,
Here is one of my sources for my cross data.
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~levitte/rescue-...porsche924.html
Scroll down to the CV part. Lemme know what you think.
THX

He's wrong on the cross apps. There's NO such thing as a Type 4 Bus, he's wrong on the 924/944/951 stuff, and he's wrong on the oil filters. Other than that, I can't comment. When cheap is your driving force, you are apt to make some BIG mistakes. And, of course, just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true! The Cap'n