Gauging interest. Bi-xenon headlight conversion kit., I see a brighter future. |
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Gauging interest. Bi-xenon headlight conversion kit., I see a brighter future. |
Chris914n6 |
Apr 19 2012, 02:23 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,413 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So 10 years ago I designed a low profile popup headlight kit using the Hella 90mm housings. Didn't have the all tools to produce them. Now I do. But times have changed and bi-xenon housings are readily available. Plus, 1 will do the job of 2 and fit A LOT neater.
Package would include a pair of FX-R bi-xenon projectors, custom powder-coated headlight structures, formed lexan shrouds, and a few other pieces to make it a quality product. Raised headlight height will be about 1/2 stock. (Sleepy eyes for you s13 owners lol) Price will be about $350-400. You will still need D2S bulbs and ballasts. New kits run about $70 for DDM, $160 for Morimoto, and $250 for Philips & Mitsu OEM stuff. Also been working on a design for the turn signal location. Hi Felix (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Using the Mini projectors, LED panels for the park/turn lights, Lexan cover, housing. Hoping to get the D2S version to fit so it can use the Awesome and Almost as Awesome bulb/ballast setups. Still labor intensive enough to put the price in the $350-400 range. LASTLY Also brainstormed a LED replacement for the side marker. Less wart, more pimple lol. Looking to be about $100/pr if the idea pans out. |
billh1963 |
Apr 19 2012, 04:49 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,404 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
I will watch this thread with interest! I might be interested depending on how close to stock (cosmetically) the final solution turns out.
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tracer |
Apr 19 2012, 06:24 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 26-July 04 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 2,405 Region Association: Northern California |
I would be on board for this change. Do you have any pictures of the finished working system you are proposing?
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carr914 |
Apr 19 2012, 06:37 AM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 121,985 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Also watching
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rnellums |
Apr 19 2012, 07:29 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
VERY interested in a headlight for the turn signal location. If you develop a kit for this I WILL buy it.
-Ross |
effutuo101 |
Apr 19 2012, 07:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Pictures?
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matthepcat |
Apr 19 2012, 08:46 AM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
I am always interested in this stuff. I am a fan of unconventional, and I like the sleepy eye concept.
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Mike Bellis |
Apr 19 2012, 09:37 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Interested. Need to see a mock up.
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falconfp2001 |
Apr 19 2012, 11:50 AM
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Pancho Pantera Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 5-December 10 From: Downey, CA Member No.: 12,456 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Very interested. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
By half Height, do you mean to modify the Headlight so it only opens half height? The way the headlight motors and relays are designed, they would have to fully cycle to open so how would you keep the motor from doing this? While working on mine I once blew a fuse because the motor could not fully cycle to its stop position. Would be cool to have only a few inches open just don't see it happening easily. |
matthepcat |
Apr 19 2012, 12:00 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Probably will not use factory motors.....or motors at all(thats how I would do it).
Or maybe linear actuators. Very interested. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) By half Height, do you mean to modify the Headlight so it only opens half height? The way the headlight motors and relays are designed, they would have to fully cycle to open so how would you keep the motor from doing this? While working on mine I once blew a fuse because the motor could not fully cycle to its stop position. Would be cool to have only a few inches open just don't see it happening easily. |
McMark |
Apr 19 2012, 01:29 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I did that with factory motors and bi-xenon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Chris914n6 |
Apr 19 2012, 01:45 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,413 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Questions to date...
Pics- I find the brainstorming part fun, lots of doodles, sourced components I would use, but haven't invested the many hours or dollars to prototype it or jigs. Probably 2 weeks for the frame and another 2 weeks for the molding bucks. Plus a week for the hard parts to get here. Motors- Uses stock motor setup. Just needed to change lever geometry. Fog lights- Got a PM about adding fog lights to the popups. Anyone else into that possibility? Original Hella fitting. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-431-1334864823.1.jpg) |
JmuRiz |
Apr 19 2012, 07:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,504 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'm watching too, I'm a fan of modern tech in an old package...sometimes it pays to buy a non original car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
914/8 style duals would be cool, but I guess that'd need a new hood shape...so stock headlight covers would be best. |
Chris914n6 |
Apr 23 2012, 12:05 AM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,413 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Looks like enough interest to move forward, so this weekend I did a mock-up and started blueprinting. Ordering hard parts Monday. Raised height about 4 1/2".
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh6.googleusercontent.com-431-1335161125.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh6.googleusercontent.com-431-1335161125.2.jpg) |
rnellums |
Apr 23 2012, 07:09 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Looks good. Shoot me a PM if you get around to making them for mount in the turn signal housing!
-Ross |
jimsfolly |
May 25 2012, 05:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 15-June 08 From: Renton, WA Member No.: 9,174 Region Association: None |
So 10 years ago I designed a low profile popup headlight kit using the Hella 90mm housings. Didn't have the all tools to produce them. Now I do. But times have changed and bi-xenon housings are readily available. Plus, 1 will do the job of 2 and fit A LOT neater. Package would include a pair of FX-R bi-xenon projectors, custom powder-coated headlight structures, formed lexan shrouds, and a few other pieces to make it a quality product. Raised headlight height will be about 1/2 stock. (Sleepy eyes for you s13 owners lol) Price will be about $350-400. You will still need D2S bulbs and ballasts. New kits run about $70 for DDM, $160 for Morimoto, and $250 for Philips & Mitsu OEM stuff. Also been working on a design for the turn signal location. Hi Felix (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Using the Mini projectors, LED panels for the park/turn lights, Lexan cover, housing. Hoping to get the D2S version to fit so it can use the Awesome and Almost as Awesome bulb/ballast setups. Still labor intensive enough to put the price in the $350-400 range. LASTLY Also brainstormed a LED replacement for the side marker. Less wart, more pimple lol. Looking to be about $100/pr if the idea pans out. Trying to be patient waiting for update on progress, I was going to do the dual 60mm hella setup but i've got more money than time..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
smj |
May 25 2012, 06:23 PM
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"Dude, Steve from Berkeley." Group: Members Posts: 591 Joined: 28-August 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 4,691 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm watching too, I'm a fan of modern tech in an old package...sometimes it pays to buy a non original car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Amen, brother! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I'm very interested, I think these would look great with the slant nose on my -6. Torn about incorporating the fogs, I generally like the option of running them without having to pop up the mains. |
kerensky |
May 25 2012, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 1-February 06 From: Norman, OK Member No.: 5,508 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Highly interested in this mod. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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Chris914n6 |
May 25 2012, 10:31 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,413 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You know the quick times were to keep me motivated and not for you right lol. The Universe honors no plans. Took 3 weeks to get parts as I timed the order right during industry week. Can't find a local supplier for the 5/8" .095 DOM cross tube... luckily I don't need much because it's costing triple. Everything else is coming together. Have a paper template and the design is done. Just need to build one and real world test it.
I also worked out a deal to get electronics, so I can do a discounted package. Here are some teaser pics from when the lights first got here. Chrome shroud optional. Tape over lens so I don't scratch 'em. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh5.googleusercontent.com-431-1338006683.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh5.googleusercontent.com-431-1338006684.2.jpg) Double light/fog. Also the same lights for the turn sig setup if that gets more interest. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-431-1338006684.3.jpg) |
smj |
May 31 2012, 02:06 AM
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"Dude, Steve from Berkeley." Group: Members Posts: 591 Joined: 28-August 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 4,691 Region Association: Northern California |
Thinking about this a little more, the dual headlight/foglight setup might be a good option for the earlier cars where the headlights are always raised when the running lights are turned on. (At least, that's the case with my -6...)
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