With contest for free pad and shipping see post #24, 4 left -Engine firewall pad - $75 each will be $125 after the GB |
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With contest for free pad and shipping see post #24, 4 left -Engine firewall pad - $75 each will be $125 after the GB |
Mikey914 |
Jun 7 2012, 11:06 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
I read this and do agree to some extent.
The main problem with the OEM pad is that it traps and holds water against the firewall. It has great sound absorption qualities, but is more potential problem than it's worth. That's why I did the dynomat. I was concerned about the water now potentially being trapped at the upper section and allowing rust to propigate. True, there is a potential for the pad to trap water behind it...... if you glue it in. That's why I used the velco to hold it in place. The foam is fairly soft so to make it more durable I used some speed tape. A very simular application to an aircraft installation. The velcro allows some space behind the pad to allow it to breathe. I can provide 2' of 2" wide velcro (what I used) alond with enough tape to tape yours up like I did, for about $16 as an option. In a perfect world this pad will keep out water. This would require a perfect seal all the way around the edges. I think this option if the best of both worlds. The production on these will start late this next week Scotty: Never did I mention anything about water absorption in the pad. The concern I point out is the problem of water and or water holding debries behind the pad. It is very difficult for it to dry out when water and debries are trapped between the pad and the firewall. Any non -breathing pad will have this problem unless they can be sealed on top to prevent water engress, and/or opened to drain / be cleaned at bottom. A closed cell rubber is not a breathable material unless you perferate it. Take care to keep it dry behind the pad. If you read the descrition, these are made form a closed cell rubber that DOES NOT absorb water. The water absorbtion was the biggest issue with the O.E. pads. They got wet and had no way to quickly dry out. Thanks for another great product Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) of course these are the cause of lower firewall rust thru in many a 914. Debries get caught behind the pad, making the situation even worse, water enters during rain or washing and runs down to the bottom of the pad. and the lower firewall can then rust. I have had some cars with the pad, most all had rust (some near terminal) from the pad/debries holding water. the early cars lacked this pad and none of my early cars had any rust there. Yes these can make the car less noisey, or restore an ugly old pad, but the cost is you must be vigalent with making sure no water ever gets behind them. Perhaps one can shorten the pad's hieght, so there is an inch or so gap at the bottom to help allow water to run out. Also upon install ,make sure all the top clips hold the top edge firmly and securly to the firewall, this will help prevenmt rain/wash ater from entering. the pad can be a good thing, but be ware of the faults of these pads, keep the backside dry and you will be ok. |
Daiberl |
Jun 7 2012, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 10,497 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In for one
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veltror |
Jun 8 2012, 05:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 928 Joined: 27-April 08 From: Potters Bar Herts UK Member No.: 8,978 Region Association: None |
Mark, one fir me, I will get you to ship a whole pile of stuff in one go later in the summer.
roman |
Mikey914 |
Jun 8 2012, 01:01 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Got a thought - yeah with me that's dangerous.
After these have all shipped ill run a contest for best installed pictures. I'd start a new thread for the contest with a poll, so the winner will be chosen by the group. That way I'll get some more pictures and someone will get thier purchase (including shipping) fully refunded - including those from overseas! |
Andyrew |
Jun 8 2012, 02:46 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Nice idea!
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nickp997 |
Jun 9 2012, 05:32 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 17-June 11 From: Texas Member No.: 13,207 Region Association: South East States |
Im in for one. Just let me know Mark. Thanks, Nickp997
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Mikey914 |
Jun 13 2012, 02:00 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
PMs sent I'll keep this GB open for another 10 days.
Thanks to all- Mark |
leebenedi |
Jun 13 2012, 07:29 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 21-April 09 From: Los Hueros Member No.: 10,284 Region Association: Spain |
Hello Mark, can you tell me what shipping to Spain will be? Thank you,
Lee |
EdwardBlume |
Jun 13 2012, 07:52 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Another awesome product. In about 20 years, instead of having my filings rattle, I'll get this done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Mikey914 |
Jun 14 2012, 01:43 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Hello Mark, can you tell me what shipping to Spain will be? Thank you, Lee I have had issues with international shipping on the USPS side. They often hold onto the item in customs and don't notify you. I typically send express or Fedex. The best bet would be to see if i could piggyback it onto another international order to one of the companies that re sell, you would still have customs fees on your item, but it would get the price down. Express puts this at $36 |
Mikey914 |
Jun 23 2012, 04:05 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Here's one my son did on his "new" toy. It will be a daily driver. His will not be in the contest.
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Mikey914 |
Jun 23 2012, 04:06 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
one more
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DRPHIL914 |
Jun 28 2012, 02:06 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
mark , are you still taking orders for these on the group buy?
just opened my engine compartment yesterday to find my factory pad falling off, and did not realize it was as bad as it was. so- i will order if you are still taking them- phil |
Mikey914 |
Jun 28 2012, 05:27 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Yes figured I'd run this till the 15th then open the thread for the contest.
Take lots of pictures who knows you may win. I'll pm you. Mark |
Harpo |
Jun 28 2012, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
I just sent in my paypal for my new engine pad
Thanks DAvid |
Mikey914 |
Jul 9 2012, 09:03 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,680 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
4 left at this price.
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