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Sasquatch Part III Audi 1.8t transplant..., PCV upgrades finally... |
dakotaewing |
May 25 2015, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,163 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Those cheap radiators scare me.. I mean they dont even know if they are a 3 row or 2 row! (God forbid if they are a 3 row...) Im sure they would cool 1.8L just fine, Its just a fear of mine that they are total crap... The Mishimoto is a big company but they dont have a great reputation as a good radiator company. And.... Those are the most expensive of all the radiators! |
Andyrew |
May 25 2015, 08:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Yup. I might try one of the cheap toyota radiators but I think if I start to heatsoak I am going to go with a dual pass VW alum radiator.
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Andyrew |
May 26 2015, 12:31 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
http://m.ebay.com/itm/180901154597?txnId=1359740751008
Grabbed this one, tried to offer him a bit less but no go. Ill be replacing the fans and giving the radiator setup a trial to see what it can do. If it ends up being junk Ill open up the ends to see how the core is made. Ill post in my thread when it comes in and give real dimensions and such |
okieflyr |
May 26 2015, 07:21 PM
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9fauxteen Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 9-January 05 From: Phila PA Member No.: 3,426 Region Association: North East States |
I've been running a Turbo MR2 radiator and fans for 8-9 years now.
The car runs at 200-210* town and highway all day long. It will sit on the higher side(210) at night when the air is coolest and dense. I do have large silicone heater hoses(1.25) on feed and return so there may be some reduced flow velocity. Most of what I've been able find says this engine in factory/mild tune likes 205*. I am considering putting in A/C so a condenser will be a pre test of the air flow at some point while I consider trunk clean up as well. |
Mike Bellis |
Jun 6 2015, 07:55 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Fabrication started in earnest today. Both the new oil cooler and new radiator have found their place. I added some 3/4" .120 wall DOM tubing from the shock tower to the front. I have a 1.5" square tube sectioned and welded to the top of the forward suspension points and !/4" plate welded to that to pick up the load of the tow bar. The DOM ties the from the shock tower to the 1/4" plate. This should also stiffen up the front end since the PO cut massive holes in the inner fender well. I'm sure things have been flexing under load. I will add some more gussets before I feel comfortable with the strength of the tow bar setup.
The celica radiator is a great fit between the headlights. I started to fab the shrouding too. I started with a 16ga floor with a bend to match the radiator bottom angle. 14mm holes locate the radiator in the floor. I then cut some 14ga scrap steel that had a perfect 90° in it to seal on the radiator. 914 Rubber supplied a seal (rear window to engine lid) that will seal the radiator to the shroud. The shroud had to be fit around the DOM for a good air tight seal. Once all the gusseting is complete, I will graft in a new nose from my parts car in the side yard. I need a new bumper too. I posted a WTB but hopefully I will find one at the swap tomorrow. It will look like a GT but the cut out will be taller to match my oil cooler and the tow bar cross brace will need clearance in the bumper too. |
JRust |
Jun 6 2015, 08:33 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Love the tow bar setup Mike! Been thinking of doing something similar
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Mike Bellis |
Jun 6 2015, 08:47 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Love the tow bar setup Mike! Been thinking of doing something similar Yours kind of inspired me. Then I looked at the standard connection on my car and realized the tow bar would be dragging on the ground. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
Andyrew |
Jun 6 2015, 09:13 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Looks great! Love the support and the radiator shroud is looking pretty good! Is that going to get welded in?
Im curious with the empty area below the lights if you considered going there with your oil cooler? I am going to see about doing dual oil coolers under the headlights like maybe two small 3x6 coolers run in sequence. and remove the fog lights. |
Andyrew |
Jun 6 2015, 09:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
PS thats a nice looking welding blanket! Kevlar?
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Mike Bellis |
Jun 6 2015, 09:22 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
My space below the headlights is reserved for brake cooling ducts. I plan to run them from the fog light grills.
Yes the blanket is kevlar shielding my oil cooler line from flying sparks! I have two of them given to me by someone? Don't remember who. |
Andyrew |
Jun 6 2015, 10:08 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Gotcha. I've been contemplating brake cooling as well. I Figured I'd put a discrete duct under the front bumper or make the fog light opening a bit bigger.
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Mike Bellis |
Jun 7 2015, 04:39 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
More fun today.
Gussets and bracing done. bracket for oil cooler done. Shroud sides done. I even mocked up the gasket seal. I put some on the GT valence too. Looks like it will seal great! Time to go cut the nose off my parts car... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Attached thumbnail(s) |
Andyrew |
Jun 7 2015, 04:51 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Are you going to rubber isolate the oil cooler? Also is the rubber shroud the only isolation your using on your radiator?
What are you using for the rubber shroud? Looks pretty good... |
Mike Bellis |
Jun 7 2015, 07:28 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Are you going to rubber isolate the oil cooler? Also is the rubber shroud the only isolation your using on your radiator? What are you using for the rubber shroud? Looks pretty good... There is a urethane pad under the oil cooler. The mounting tab has a little built in flex to it as well. You can see the bottom pan and locating holes. They sell isolating donuts for the locating pins. There will also be an undetermined gasket under it too. The sides are done. The 914 Rubber gasket is the pad and the seal. There will also be a top plate with some kind of seal, still yet to be built. |
Andyrew |
Jun 7 2015, 09:50 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
It looks pretty good! You seem to be able to fabricate things much faster than me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
What size inlet hole are you going to be using? |
Mike Bellis |
Jun 7 2015, 10:03 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
It looks pretty good! You seem to be able to fabricate things much faster than me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) What size inlet hole are you going to be using? Inlet hole is the size of the oil cooler core. 22"x5.5". Basically a taller GT opening. The key is to force all the air through the cooler and then the radiator. I still need to figure out oil hose routing. Its completely sealed at this point. I think I will find some grommets to run them through. |
Andyrew |
Jun 7 2015, 10:16 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Interesting, Did you eliminate your water/oil cooler completely and replace it with this cooler? Seems like your trying to cool the oil down quite a bit, I thought you were going to have the oil cooler just run open air like that maybe with a small fan behind it just in case.
That inlet is about the same size as the 916 inlet. I think I previously measured it to 21x5.5 |
Mike Bellis |
Jun 7 2015, 10:31 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Interesting, Did you eliminate your water/oil cooler completely and replace it with this cooler? Seems like your trying to cool the oil down quite a bit, I thought you were going to have the oil cooler just run open air like that maybe with a small fan behind it just in case. That inlet is about the same size as the 916 inlet. I think I previously measured it to 21x5.5 Yes the water/oil cooler has been replaced with a sandwich plate, Mocal thermostat and AN12 lines to the front. The radiator fans will pull air through the oil cooler once the system is sealed off. My old oil cooler was a 22"x17" Setrab unit. This one is much smaller. But with the old one hovering over the radiator, air has an opportunity to go around it. In theory this should have more air flow in total. |
Mike Bellis |
Jun 11 2015, 05:38 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
I picked up a factory shroud with fans for the radiator. Perfect fit but I need to check my stash for electrical connectors. I like this one better than the cheapo Chinese fans and shroud that's sold as a package with this radiator. If these fans don't blow enough, my old fans can be fit into this shroud with a little ingenuity.
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Andyrew |
Jun 11 2015, 08:33 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
What did you pay for that factory unit? Looks pretty nice. I was considering buying some nice fans but think that a factory unit would be nice as well..
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