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> 2012 Red Rocks Classic, Beaver, UT, Sept. 7-9
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post Sep 5 2012, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Sep 4 2012, 09:52 PM) *

I'm in Sterling CO. Heading the the Ginters tomorrow afternoon. The Alien does not like the heat! She wants to go home where it's cool.

Sandy's flight arrived in Denver Thursday morning at 9:18 am. Maybe it will land early. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Rick - you have my cell phone if I can help.

PS: It is 51 degrees here this morning
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post Sep 5 2012, 07:34 AM
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Sandy's flight arrived in Denver Thursday morning at 9:18 am. Maybe it will land early. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Rick - did you make up that arrival time? 9:18.......
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post Sep 5 2012, 07:58 AM
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Is there a caravan from Denver to Beaver?
My goal to leave fri. am.
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post Sep 5 2012, 10:45 AM
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Ferg @ Sep 4 2012, 11:19 PM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Sep 4 2012, 07:52 PM) *

I'm in Sterling CO. Heading the the Ginters tomorrow afternoon. The Alien does not like the heat! She wants to go home where it's cool.

Sandy's flight arrived in Denver Thursday morning at 9:18 am. Maybe it will land early. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



My cell is 720-470-10sixtythree, do you need to work on her? If so call, I have a good handle on local parts.

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I'll call you when my phone charges. Looks like my battery is shot it won't hold a charge longer than one call.

I wouldn't mind changing my oil. You know who sell Brad Penn 20/50? and who would have a Mann filter for a 1980 928 enigne?

I was stuck in traffic at several a stop lights and the engine went to 220. I may have killed the oil.
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(majkos @ Sep 5 2012, 08:58 AM) *

Is there a caravan from Denver to Beaver?
My goal to leave fri. am.


Kev Sandy and I are supposed to drive to Durango Thursday so we won't be in town. See ya there!
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Kansas 914 @ Sep 5 2012, 07:25 AM) *

QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Sep 4 2012, 09:52 PM) *

I'm in Sterling CO. Heading the the Ginters tomorrow afternoon. The Alien does not like the heat! She wants to go home where it's cool.

Sandy's flight arrived in Denver Thursday morning at 9:18 am. Maybe it will land early. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Rick - you have my cell phone if I can help.

PS: It is 51 degrees here this morning


Since I finally got my fuel injection working reasonably well the engine runs hotter in town. The good side is I am getting 21-22 mpg on the highway, the down side is the leaner setting is not in town friendly. I think I may drop the anti freeze and run straight water. That is supposed to help with cooling. I also need to add an oil cooler. I ave most of the parts I need now. Just need the time.

BTW: when my FI was wacked I was getting 10 mpg. I was litterly cooling the engine with fuel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

Ya, Sandy just sent me an update on her arrival. 9:21 But hey! the flight could arive early!
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:11 AM
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220 oil temp isn't too bad
I think boiling point is 212 so you are really optimum at 220

above 235-240 is scary though...
but your oil should still be ok at 220
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Sep 5 2012, 11:08 AM) *

I think I may drop the anti freeze and run straight water. That is supposed to help with cooling.

I'd be worried about running straight water up at these altitudes. I bet you know this Rick but while plain water has a higher heat capacity than the water+coolant mixture, it also has a lower boiling point than the mixture - combine that with the fact that you're going to be at altitude, lowering the BP even further and you have a recipe for disaster methinks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:26 AM
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I think I may drop the anti freeze and run straight water. That is supposed to help with cooling.

I'd be worried about running straight water up at these altitudes. I bet you know this Rick but while plain water has a higher heat capacity than the water+coolant mixture, it also has a lower boiling point than the mixture - combine that with the fact that you're going to be at altitude, lowering the BP even further and you have a recipe for disaster methinks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Ya, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Just have to keep it rolling I guess or fatten the mixture a little.

I'm checking out of here. See ya!
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:42 AM
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you Rick (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) . See you soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 5 2012, 12:05 PM
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Rick ... when you check in, my 2.7 runs 210 - 220 almost constantly. I saw 240 running thru the desert on the way to Ouray. As long as my oil pressure stayed steady I didn't panic but I wasn't happy with the 240 oil temp.
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post Sep 5 2012, 04:23 PM
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Rick ... when you check in, my 2.7 runs 210 - 220 almost constantly. I saw 240 running thru the desert on the way to Ouray. As long as my oil pressure stayed steady I didn't panic but I wasn't happy with the 240 oil temp.


Ya, I hear ya Ron. The issue I'm seeing is now my oil pressure gauge is jumping all over the place. I run at 150psi to around 90 psi when the oil is hot at idle. Now when I'm cruising down the freeway the gauge is bouncing from 150 as low as 30 psi. I either cooked the oil and killed the viscosity enhancers or I have an electrical issue. If the oil is foaming when hot now it would maybe act like air getting into the system.

I'm leaning tword the electrical issue but I located a Mann filter and some 20/50 Brad Penn here in Denver just incase. The reason I am leaning tword the electrical is I drove the car last night 230 miles with the gauge bouncing. I would think if it were a mechanical issue the engine would be dead no.

I was at 220 but never lost any fluid. As long as the pressure doesn't lift the cap I'm good. I don't know the relationship between water temp and oil temp but when I left the car in Lincoln because the gauge went wacky I had the oil tested. I had been running Castrol GTX 20/50. Test came back showing the viscosity was around 20W and pan had black flecks of carbon in it. Cooked oil. So if water is 220 oil may be hotter?
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post Sep 5 2012, 04:54 PM
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As my memory is shot, I thought the water temp was 10 - 20 degrees cooler than the oil temp. That's what I remember from the racing days.

I agree with the electrical issue if it's jumping around.
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post Sep 5 2012, 06:30 PM
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Sharon. Checking on one more possible. Lil Erc may attend.


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Maybe you could do everyone a favour this time and keep little Erc in your pants. Word is that at Hershey little Erc was walking and talking and was practically a whole nother person.

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post Sep 5 2012, 07:26 PM
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post Sep 5 2012, 07:31 PM
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post Sep 5 2012, 07:48 PM
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He just beamed himself in. Yeah!

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post Sep 5 2012, 08:08 PM
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Rick, I doubt you burned your oil at 220F. The break down point of automotive engine oil seems to be in the range of 300-370 degrees (Centigrade). 300 degrees C = 572 degrees F.

Unless it's time for an oil change, save yourself some time & money (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Sep 5 2012, 08:23 PM
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The Alien has landed.

Well done! That Alien has to be one of the most traveled cars out there?? Does anyone keep track of those kind of things?
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