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Tuna Can Installation, Need Info ... |
euro911 |
Aug 28 2012, 01:52 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
I recently picked up a 'previously owned' steel tuna can, but all I got was the can and bolt. Does anyone have a copy of the installation instructions or info on extending the pick-up tube, gaskets or seals needed ... and can tell me if the strainer relocates down to the bottom of the 'can'? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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ejm |
Aug 28 2012, 04:07 AM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,703 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
No strainer, one gasket and you'll need to get a pickup extension from somewhere
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KaptKaos |
Aug 28 2012, 07:51 AM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
mark - there is a guy in the UK that makes a sweet billet tuna can. I am talking with him about them. Remind me to show you tonight.
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tradisrad |
Aug 28 2012, 08:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: 11-September 06 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 6,815 Region Association: Northern California |
I modified my strainer to use it with the tuna can. Dont forget the new gasket and what ever you do DONT over tighten it.
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SLITS |
Aug 28 2012, 08:31 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Did you take the tuna out of the can first?
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KaptKaos |
Aug 28 2012, 08:53 AM
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Family Group: Members Posts: 4,009 Joined: 23-April 03 From: Near Wausau Member No.: 607 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thinking about putting together a group buy on these:
Billet Sump (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-607-1346165632.1.jpg) Taco Plate (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-607-1346165633.2.jpg) Links: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978326 and http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1251577 The guy is out of the UK, but is open to making a deal. Thoughts? |
gothspeed |
Aug 28 2012, 08:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None |
Group buy is a great idea. How about including that billet taco plate too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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eric9144 |
Aug 28 2012, 11:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,744 Joined: 30-March 11 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 12,876 Region Association: Southern California |
I just bought both from him, no hassles and arrived 1 month to the day from ordering, he was in process of moving his shop or it likely would have been quicker. The quality is fantastic.
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euro911 |
Aug 28 2012, 11:32 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Did you take the tuna out of the can first? No, silly ... keeping the tuna to filter the oil (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif) Ed, what is the extension tube made of? ... aluminum tubing? What do you use for a coupling to the existing pick-up? Not sure I'd like to run without some type of particulate filter at the bottom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Rob, how did you modify your stainer? ... (got PIX?) Does the strainer reside at the bottom of the can? Sorry for all the questions, but concerned if not done right - (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) I was cautioned about the 7~9 lb torque spec prior to my first oil change (2007) - duly noted. Hmmm ... tuna taco GB (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 28 2012, 11:43 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,060 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The pickup tube extension is, from what I can tell, machined out of a billet piece of rod. There is a groove on the inside up at one end for the O-ring, and the other end is closed except for the wide slots cut in an X shape on the end. There might be a hole on the end larger than were the slots meet, but it might just be the slots. Regardless, the retaining nut goes through where the slots meet.
Not an easy part to make, and if it does not seal you're going to be sucking air most of the time. Not so good. You only got half the kit, you need the other half as well. --DD |
aircooledtechguy |
Aug 28 2012, 07:03 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Not an easy part to make, and if it does not seal you're going to be sucking air most of the time. Not so good. If you have "air" that low in your sump that you actually suck air, you're completely out of oil anyway. That tuna can won't do a darn thing. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 28 2012, 08:37 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,060 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The top of the oil pick-up?
--DD |
aircooledtechguy |
Aug 28 2012, 09:13 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where you slip on the extension. This adds about 1.5 inches or less to the original pick-up tube. If your oil is that low, all you have left is in the bottom of the tuna can. Or maybe we're talking about two separate things (it's been a long day on this end)
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markb |
Aug 28 2012, 10:44 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Hmmm, with the exception of the seals, I thought I sent all the parts pictured here.... if not send a PM & I'll be happy to refund the Paypal.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca..._UP9144_pg4.htm |
euro911 |
Aug 29 2012, 12:17 AM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
The aluminum piece (pick-up the extension) shown in the left of the pic is the part in question.
Logically assuming the O-ring fits in a groove inside the top of the of the aluminum extension (shown upside-down in the pic) to seal against the stock pick-up tube tube, and the cross-hatch at the bottom is for the oil pick up from the bottom of the can/sump? If the extension isn't available from the manufacturer as a separate part, then I can try to machine one if someone can provide all the dimensions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Dave, I sent you a PM I'm also interested in Rob's strainer modification (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) If manufacturing an extension at home proves to be too difficult , I've been made aware that I can return the can to the unnamed-mystery seller (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
cgnj |
Aug 29 2012, 03:45 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 635 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
Hi,
I have an incomplete one also, together we could make one. Pick-up Tube od=1.130 in. id=.715 in. lenght=2.310 in. Can you tell me the size of the o ring and washer? Can anyone say where the washer goes? Thanks, Carlos |
ejm |
Aug 29 2012, 04:27 AM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,703 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
The "washer" is a stock strainer plate seal that's used on the bolt
Logically assuming the O-ring fits in a groove inside the top of the of the aluminum extension (shown upside-down in the pic) to seal against the stock pick-up tube tube, and the cross-hatch at the bottom is for the oil pick up from the bottom of the can/sump? correct |
markb |
Aug 29 2012, 10:05 AM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Mark, don't try & make one, I found the one for yours. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I guess I didn't get it into the box before I shipped it. My apologies. I'll get it in a flat rate box & off to you in today's mail. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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euro911 |
Aug 29 2012, 01:47 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,858 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Cool. Glad you located it. You could mail it in a padded envelope and save a few $ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
Thanks Mark (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Dave_Darling |
Aug 29 2012, 02:06 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,060 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Where you slip on the extension. This adds about 1.5 inches or less to the original pick-up tube. Yes, it adds that much to the bottom. But the O-ring is around the top of the extension, which goes up over the existing tube at least an inch--possibly more. And that is what we're talking about potentially leaking, especially if there is no seal at all there. And if you're drawing the oil from up that far, what's the point in an extension of the tube anyway? Remember, the point of this part is to keep oil at the pickup when it is sloshing around in the sump. The washer, for the person who asked, goes between the retaining nut (which looks like a long bolt) and the bottom of the can. Much like the stock setup has a crush washer between the retaining nut and the sump plate. --DD |
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