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Let's talk about "being stock" vs "having the car you want" |
Cupomeat |
Oct 17 2012, 08:46 AM
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missing my NY 914 in VA Group: Members Posts: 1,338 Joined: 26-November 07 From: Oakton VA Member No.: 8,376 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yeah, I have this sort of "perfection paralysis" as well, if you can call stock "perfect"...
On my 914 I've restored it to a close to stock state and can't imagine doing ANY serious mod, especially things like carbs or anything that take more time from driving. On my 993, it is so clean and pretty that I won't alter anything that isn't a wear item or can't be put back to stock in no time. Heck, my last house in NJ was built in 1941 and was of such incredibly fantastic workmanship and quality that I had a hard time putting holes in the lovely walls or replace the original elgin steel kitchen cabinets. I suppose I need to get over that all and worry less. |
rnellums |
Oct 17 2012, 03:00 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,670 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
In my opinion, a car that is perfectly stock is a rare find indeed. It is very rare to find one that hasn't had foolish modifications or a repaint to a different color. If you want to do a heavily modded car, sell the original one for a profit and buy one that is already headed to modded direction. Above all though do whatever you want with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Madswede |
Oct 17 2012, 04:21 PM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I bought my 914 with all the malice of foresight! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I had always intended to put in a 911/6 of some kind in there, and steel flares.
I did want to keep the original color, though, after I saw how the New Mexico sun and sunsets made the Phoenix Red color so beautiful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) I even kept the original seats, though I had them bolstered. Steering wheel had to go, I'm too big for stock. Rennshift as well. Having said that, the custom tail lights Joe O'Brien did are fantastic, as is the magic he's working with the upgraded 3.2. Yeah, this is a driver's car, through and through. When the opportunity presented itself financially, and Joe described to me the options and benefits, I decided I wanted 2000's technology with an 80's Porsche flat six, in my 70's Porsche-VW chassis. So yeah, I did what I wanted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Jgilliam914 |
Oct 17 2012, 04:57 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,340 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ive had 2 914s one was completely stock and the other one never was while i have owned it.
I felt that with having one bone stock that it was my duty to preserve. The other was my toy, the one I played with the one I autocrossed and have changed virtually every component on the car. I no longer have the original one but I am drawn to ones that still are. I would love a numbers matching 6 with a 110 hp to take into my old age but a 1.7 with a appearance package could easily suffice. |
bembry |
Oct 17 2012, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I like the stock look. Mine started out thrashed with a bunch of non-stock parts (worn out rivieras, cut door panels, hole in the dash, homemade carpet, destroyed center console, cheapie aftermarket steering wheel, antenna, and mirror, and cracked fiberglass from air dam) and a horrible oxidized maroon respray.
I took it back to stock light ivory with a cheap paint job, got stock fuchs alloys, a stock steering wheel, period Becker radio, and better back pad and door panels, and center console out of the junkyard. The departure from stock right now is the 2056 with dual carbs. I did save the stock FI and associated parts though. I'm slowly going back to what I think my car should be, which in my case is mainly stock. Interior, rubber weather seals, and better paint job are down the road. Mikey's fiberglass bumper tops are on order. I also found a stock front valence, and put a dash cap on. I don't mind using things like the dash cap and fiberglass bumper tops. This car will never be concours. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519731.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519731.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519732.3.jpg) |
rex66m |
Oct 17 2012, 06:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 3-August 11 From: Birmingham, AL Member No.: 13,393 Region Association: None |
I am in the stock, but to each his own. I have certainly seen some performance mods that look appealing.
One thing you can say about stock (especially re: appearance), on a good car it always stands the test of time. |
JawjaPorsche |
Oct 17 2012, 06:35 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,463 Joined: 23-July 11 From: Clayton, Georgia Member No.: 13,351 Region Association: South East States |
Wow! Looks like Cujo got a hold of the driver's seat! My teener seats were fried too but I was very fortunate to find newly upholstered seats on Craiglist! I was very lucky. Putting it back to stock is neat! It takes time and a lot of green!
I like the stock look. Mine started out thrashed with a bunch of non-stock parts (worn out rivieras, cut door panels, hole in the dash, homemade carpet, destroyed center console, cheapie aftermarket steering wheel, antenna, and mirror, and cracked fiberglass from air dam) and a horrible oxidized maroon respray. I took it back to stock light ivory with a cheap paint job, got stock fuchs alloys, a stock steering wheel, period Becker radio, and better back pad and door panels, and center console out of the junkyard. The departure from stock right now is the 2056 with dual carbs. I did save the stock FI and associated parts though. I'm slowly going back to what I think my car should be, which in my case is mainly stock. Interior, rubber weather seals, and better paint job are down the road. Mikey's fiberglass bumper tops are on order. I also found a stock front valence, and put a dash cap on. I don't mind using things like the dash cap and fiberglass bumper tops. This car will never be concours. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519731.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519731.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i269.photobucket.com-4499-1350519732.3.jpg) |
bembry |
Oct 17 2012, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 529 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Bakersfield, CA Member No.: 4,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yeah--the seat is pretty rough. Seat covers from well known place are $200 extra for corduroy inserts which I want--yikes.
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iamchappy |
Oct 17 2012, 07:45 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
For me it was all about having the car i want....had a stock one for 30 years.
Now i have the car i always dreamed my 914 to be.... Attached image(s) |
somd914 |
Oct 17 2012, 08:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 1,171 Joined: 21-February 11 From: Southern Maryland Member No.: 12,741 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There is no right or wrong in my opinion, nor do I believe 914s will ever be in the big buck range even for "stock" specimens.
I appreciate the few stock 914s I've seen, but they are not something I want to own - I'll stick with my 2056, 5 bolt Fuchs, lowered suspension, body-color targa top, 904 multi-guage, Momo wheel, custom console, fuel door inthe hood, and a few other goodies. Looking forward to more mods... But do what makes you happy, that's what matters. |
CCE |
Feb 17 2023, 12:07 AM
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CCE Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 28-December 21 From: Mexico Member No.: 26,203 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I like very much the stock design of the 74 US spec car, but I definitely do like more the euro versions, without the side markers and thick bumper guards, add the 5 lug 16”x6” fuchs, it’s (to me) cleaner, more the original design and what I always wanted.
I respect the position of everyone, and I think your car should be what you like… if you can do it in a way that it can be undone, maintain the essence, better. Stock form will always be best if you need a new home for it. Just have fun with it, and with the process. I love my 2.2L, my 44mm twin webers, Bilstein’s, Mp3 Blaupunkt, golden Porsche lettering and specially my MOMO prototipo… which are not stock but in my mind are not far off the stock form in image. |
mihai914 |
Feb 17 2023, 06:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 2-March 05 From: Montreal, QC Member No.: 3,697 Region Association: None |
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Cairo94507 |
Feb 17 2023, 08:35 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,173 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
@CCE - Your car looks great. Sending you a PM. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Geezer914 |
Feb 17 2023, 08:35 AM
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Geezer914 Group: Members Posts: 1,818 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: North East States |
Every car I have ever owned has been modified either by engine mods or cosmetic. I don't plan on selling the car as it it going to be passed down to my grandson. The previous owner repainted the car Guards Red, back dated the bumpers, (car is a 1975), and removed the side marker lights. I added Bilstein shocks, 19mm front torsion bars and 140 lb. springs in the rear. Rebuilt 2056 motor, Renn shifter with Tangerine racing shift linkage. SS fuel lines, 50mm throttle body, 1.5 qt. oil sump and remote cooler. Corbeau seats with 5 point harnesses, and replaced the steering wheel. Ford Mustang billett aluminum fuel door recessed in the hood Sheridan 7" rear spoiler, front badge, SS heat exchangers, and Triad dual outlet muffler. No going back to stock here!
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CCE |
Feb 17 2023, 10:04 AM
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CCE Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 28-December 21 From: Mexico Member No.: 26,203 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Yes |
Steve |
Feb 17 2023, 10:41 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,780 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm happy for the guys and gals that are happy with stock cars, but I am to impatient to drive something that cannot get to 80 mph before getting on the freeway. There was a killer deal on a stock Karmann Ghia and I passed it up, because I knew I wouldn't be happy with it and have to modify it.
My first 914 back in 1980 i upgraded it to a 2.4 four. This car was rear ended and totaled on the avenue in 1981. Next car was out of college in 1986. Still have the car. Started off with a 2.7 six, then a 3.2 and next a 3.6. The brakes, suspension, flairs has also been a slow journey over time. Money and time also come into play when building your dream car. My tastes have also changed over time. I also bought a V8 914 already done. Only improvements i am making on this car is Boxster brakes and higher gearing. Maybe heating and air... |
CCE |
Feb 17 2023, 10:54 AM
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CCE Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 28-December 21 From: Mexico Member No.: 26,203 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Yes, I was looking for ideas on how to install an amp and woofer, (not that I’m gonna, just looking around.) there are a lot of new options for smaller and more powerful accessories now. |
Root_Werks |
Feb 17 2023, 11:17 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,539 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
As myself and the 914's get older, would say leave a stock 914 stock. It's why I bought an already converted 914-6. I didn't want to modify a nice, stock 914.
Others have said it, your money and time, ensure you get something you want. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
914sgofast2 |
Feb 17 2023, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 663 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
(1) If the car is totally stock & original when you acquire it, then keep it that way.
(2) If the car has has suffered the attentions of ham-fisted owners & mechanics by the time you acquire it, then apply the "My Money, My Rules" principle and make/repair the car the way you want it to be in order to suit your personal taste. |
pgollender |
Feb 18 2023, 08:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-July 11 From: Sacramento Member No.: 13,281 Region Association: Northern California |
For me it’s a Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde thing.
Restoring a 50 year-old fuel injected mid-engine German made sports car and getting it to run properly is every bit as fun as asking yourself …(and then doing)…What is this car really capable of becoming? It’s like …..the 914 mid-engine layout was accidentally designed as an open source project. My solution has been the 914 x 2 option. I wear my pressed white shirt and slacks by day, and carry my Karambit blade under my overalls at night. |
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