My vintage race project, yes... my first pictures are included Options

[Ferg]

I'll be by tonight with some black touch up paint, I can't bear to see this scratch (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif)

[brant]

Mike,

dang.. I hadn't even noticed it..
your going to have a long drive to get to dad's house and fix that...

Sammy,

decision was made after consulting Allen Johnsen and talking with other friends that are racing these as both 4cylinders and 6cylinders...

also based decision upon saving a tiny bit of weight.

We believe that we will have plenty of cooling without it... the temp coating on the headers will help reduce some of the heat from below issues....

plus we have a plan to run an extension on the lower floorpan and cover up a part of the engine bay from the bottom with this pan.. If this happens, it will reduce the possibility of drawing in dirt or debris. Also I intend to never go off road anyways.... RIGHT?

(said while laughing to myself due to the number of "excursions" I've already experienced while racing)

brant

[brant]

Here is a picture of the shock itself prior to install.
They are aluminum bodied with the adjustment threads made right onto the body:

[brant]

picture of the handmade tops that allow the inversion, and the 8inch springs:

[URY914]

I would think that lower shock bolt would flex. It sure is hanging out ther.

You can't get the shock closer to the arm?

Paul

[Stutgart46]

Brant,
The car is looking great.
Can you please explain to me (like a kindergardner) the "toe brace bar"?
How does it work? What are the advantages?
Thanks,
Chad

[maf914]

QUOTE (brant @ Dec 28 2004, 02:54 PM)

plus we have a plan to run an extension on the lower floorpan and cover up a part of the engine bay from the bottom with this pan.. If this happens, it will reduce the possibility of drawing in dirt or debris.

Brant, Great looking project car. Thanks for all of the photos and info.

Concerning the belly pan. I'm surprised that your organization which has fairly strict rules for most areas, allows this sort of mod.

By the way, if you want to see some neat pans on 914's, check ot the Patrick site and its project 914's.

http://www.patrickmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/...?action=gallery

[brant]

QUOTE (URY914 @ Dec 28 2004, 08:13 PM)

I would think that lower shock bolt would flex. It sure is hanging out ther. You can't get the shock closer to the arm? Paul

Paul,

your right... that bolt isn't finished yet.
It will be a little closer when done, but to keep the geometry it has to be spaced out some... A solid metal spacer is supposed to be used so that the bolt tightens correctly and shares the load... We are getting some machined from aluminum in hopes that the aluminum will be strong enough, yet save some weight.

brant

[brant]

QUOTE (Stutgart46 @ Dec 28 2004, 08:19 PM)

Brant, The car is looking great. Can you please explain to me (like a kindergardner) the "toe brace bar"? How does it work? What are the advantages? Thanks, Chad

Chad,

The toe brace bar may be a tiny bit unecessary, but was recommended to us.

Apparently with the really high latteral loads (Slick tired cars) it becomes useful to lock-in the toe, or keep it from changing at all.... Also it may add a tiny bit of reinforcement to the suspension.

I doubt we will be able to create that type of G-loading with our d.o.t. tires.

However, the reason we went with it anyways was because of the Monoballs. AJRS only runs a zero toe if the car is monoball equipted. He is convinced that with other bushings and non reinforced swingarms, there is some toe "flex" and the monoball is his only solution to that. So when he puts the monoballs on he also recommends the toe brace so that the toe can be finely dialed in and then locked..

brant

[brant]

QUOTE (maf914 @ Dec 29 2004, 07:22 AM)

QUOTE (brant @ Dec 28 2004, 02:54 PM) plus we have a plan to run an extension on the lower floorpan and cover up a part of the engine bay from the bottom with this pan..   If this happens, it will reduce the possibility of drawing in dirt or debris. Brant, Great looking project car. Thanks for all of the photos and info. Concerning the belly pan. I'm surprised that your organization which has fairly strict rules for most areas, allows this sort of mod. By the way, if you want to see some neat pans on 914's, check ot the Patrick site and its project 914's. http://www.patrickmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/...?action=gallery

Mike,

your right too...
our org. will not allow aero aids..
in fact I don't think patricks cars are legal for the same reason in his sanctioning body...

but what we had in mind is MUCH smaller than patrick's.
and may or may not be allowed... have to wait and see.

brant

[URY914]

I've seen "toe braces" of verious types over the years. It seems to be a good idea.

I see you also added some meat to the outer piece that the the toe brace attached to.
RacerChris also fabs a piece from thicker material to replace the stock pressed steel piece.

You seem to be doing all the right things, looks great..

Paul

[brant]

QUOTE (URY914 @ Dec 29 2004, 09:38 AM)

I've seen "toe braces" of verious types over the years. It seems to be a good idea. I see you also added some meat to the outer piece that the the toe brace attached to. RacerChris also fabs a piece from thicker material to replace the stock pressed steel piece. You seem to be doing all the right things, looks great.. Paul

Paul,

regarding the added "meat"..

just got to share this little tidbit..
where the front edge of the "toe brace" attatches... there is a threaded part in the long. Its made from taking a tube and a threaded insert and then welding them together.. Then a hole is drilled all the way through the long (all the way into the engine bay).
Then this "tube" is inserted into the hole and welded on both the outboard and inboard sides...

The reason I'm rambling is that this tube ties both sides of the long together and it was an eye opener to me that this added SO MUCH rigidity to the long itself... So as a side benefit the long is really re-braced also.

brant

[URY914]

I was actually talking about this piece (see pic), but thanks for the info.

[brant]

oops... my bad,

I thought you were refering to the forward point..
I've got it now.
brant

[brant]

We did some more dash work this weekend. Its really close to being ready for wiring now.. Need to make up a new loom now. Thought I would add a few more shots.

This is the gauge cluster from behind.
Its and aluminum face with 3 guages, an ignition switch, and a start switch.

It looks much better with the cover on, and will be even better when we get the new cover for it.

The reinforcement braces are aluminum too... Dad took a piece of welding rod and beat them over it to give them the rolled-reinforcement-bead... Very strong actually.

You can also see the tops of my warning lites in this one:

[brant]

Here is the same angle with the beat up pod or cover on it:

[brant]

Here are the warning lights from the important side.

Red will be oil pressure
Blue will be alternator belt

[brant]

sorry for the glare...
here are the three gauges from the drivers view:

[brant]

speaking of seats here is my new seat. Its an Ultra-Shield, and has a REALLY nice rake to fit a 914 contour.

Its not in the pic, but I'm moving my old corbeau over to the passengers side and changing the mounts so that it will be easy to pull.

that way I can leave it in when instructing and pull it for sprints.

[brant]

last couple of views. Lots of wiring to do now. Also, you can see that the firesystem is not bolted in yet nor the battery. The little cardboard box is my mock-up on the battery location, and the firesystem bottle will go to the left of that: