 914 Front Cross Panel, how they are different |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
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| gms |
 Nov 22 2012, 11:06 AM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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From years of working on 914s I have found four different Front Cross Panel (Schloßquerwand vorn)
1970-72  1973-74 Two flat areas were created for the back of the bumperettes.  1975-76 Provisions for the 5 MPH bumper shocks were added.  Replacement Panel Note the holes are not cut out.  |
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| OmaPossu |
Nov 22 2012, 02:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 4-October 09 From: Finland Member No.: 10,886 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Thank you for sharing! Although it is now harder to find right one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| sixnotfour |
Nov 23 2012, 09:09 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,638 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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Nice work Glenn.
FYI in about 1983 I bought one from the dealer and that time it was the latest version, I just bought an NOS late one and plan on splicing in the early detial section L&R. |
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| sixerdon |
Nov 29 2012, 08:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Gee, Glenn. My '75 (11/74) is as your third photo shows with holes for plugs, but my 2 '76's are as the 4th photo with out the holes. IMOH, I don't think '76's came with plugs.
For sure, the ones without holes became the last version and thus THE replacement panel. I would like to hear from other '75 & '76 owners. Don |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 30 2012, 02:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(sixerdon @ Nov 29 2012, 06:42 PM)  I would like to hear from other '75 & '76 owners. The front half of TheLimo™ is a '75 and it has the holes with black plastic plugs ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| sixnotfour |
Nov 30 2012, 08:24 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,638 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Right= 75's to some point had rubber plugs.
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| SirAndy |
Nov 30 2012, 09:12 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
475.29.09903, painted over but clearly holes with plastic plugs:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2460-1348093952.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2460-1348094191.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 30 2012, 09:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
476.29.03506, and here's a '76 with holes:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1068.photobucket.com-179-1354331823.1.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 30 2012, 09:21 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
476.29.01132, and another '76 with the black plugs:
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-643-1287956838.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 30 2012, 09:23 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| rjames |
Nov 30 2012, 11:56 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 4,141 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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My '75 has the holes and plastic plugs.
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| gms |
Dec 1 2012, 11:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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CAVEAT LECTOR!
This is MY findings and is not written in stone. Feel free to post variations...maybe the 4th incarnation then became the replacement panel. |
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| boogie_man |
Dec 1 2012, 01:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 22-April 11 From: So Cal Member No.: 12,969 Region Association: Southern California |
I Have a 72 and bought a right front body section off of a 73 with the
headlamp bucket as well (mine was toast from previous owner/hacked & filled with bondo). I must of stared at that forever thinking it wasn't the same as the other side (we sectioned it) and now I also notice the headlamp buckets are different too as the 72 has the brush wipers as the the 73 side as the larger opening where the oval hole is "taller" and won't fit a brush (but figured out a way to modify it). This is how it came out: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-12969-1354390065.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-12969-1354390066.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/img.photobucket.com-12969-1354390066.3.jpg) |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 1 2012, 02:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,894 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(gms @ Dec 1 2012, 09:29 AM) Feel free to post variations...maybe the 4th incarnation then became the replacement panel. Since 476.29.03506 shows the holes with plugs and it's pretty late for a '76 (Only 4100 made that year) i think we need the VIN numbers from Sixerdon's two '76 cars to fit them into the production range for '76. If both his cars are later than 3506 there might be a chance he's right, otherwise, i'd say both of them had the front end repaired at some point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
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| sixerdon |
Dec 2 2012, 10:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 1 2012, 12:00 PM) QUOTE(gms @ Dec 1 2012, 09:29 AM) Feel free to post variations...maybe the 4th incarnation then became the replacement panel. Since 476.29.03506 shows the holes with plugs and it's pretty late for a '76 (Only 4100 made that year) i think we need the VIN numbers from Sixerdon's two '76 cars to fit them into the production range for '76. If both his cars are later than 3506 there might be a chance he's right, otherwise, i'd say both of them had the front end repaired at some point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) One of my '76's is #3751......chas #4829002. Although a parts car, it's listed in the data file. I have owned it for almost 20 years as a car that had an engine fire and I acquired it before the crusher did. There is no indication that it is a replacement panel as the frame and fenders are straight and original. Even the bumper "lips" are original. Now I would ask,... are the bumper "lips" included on the replacement panel (RP)? You would think not if the "RP" was also meant to fit and adapt to all earlier years. But then you would have two extra large holes for the bumper shocks! The other is in a garage a few miles away. I'll check on it some time this week. I would ask other '76 owners to come forward and verify their front panel & VIN's to help solve this mystery. Don |
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| scotty b |
Dec 3 2012, 10:11 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Micheal's 6 had the nose replaced early in it's life and the replcement had no holes. All of the panels on his car that were replaced appear to be factory parts
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| Cairo94507 |
Dec 4 2012, 04:35 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,094 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California
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And we ain't a drillin' no holes on that there panel to make it look like a riginal panel neither. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (I figure it's just that much more water tight and less chance of water getting trapped in there somehow to start the rust monster.)
BTW Scotty that face freaks me out. |
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| 914runnow |
Dec 15 2012, 09:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
Danny Gaddy who is on here..has a 76 w/only 2 holes also..
(shelby).... will get his vin, and post it,so the point of change.. can possibly be pinpointed.. Although...most of us know.... Hans and company were digging deep in the bins to get rid of all they could on 76 models.. could be some x-over on multi/2 hole panels.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| 914runnow |
Dec 16 2012, 12:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(914runnow @ Dec 15 2012, 08:32 AM) Danny Gaddy who is on here..has a 76 w/only 2 holes also.. (shelby).... will get his vin, and post it,so the point of change.. can possibly be pinpointed.. Although...most of us know.... Hans and company were digging deep in the bins to get rid of all they could on 76 models.. could be some x-over on multi/2 hole panels.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) 4762903078 |
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| sixerdon |
Dec 16 2012, 03:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
QUOTE(sixerdon @ Dec 2 2012, 08:13 PM) QUOTE(SirAndy @ Dec 1 2012, 12:00 PM) QUOTE(gms @ Dec 1 2012, 09:29 AM) Feel free to post variations...maybe the 4th incarnation then became the replacement panel. Since 476.29.03506 shows the holes with plugs and it's pretty late for a '76 (Only 4100 made that year) i think we need the VIN numbers from Sixerdon's two '76 cars to fit them into the production range for '76. If both his cars are later than 3506 there might be a chance he's right, otherwise, i'd say both of them had the front end repaired at some point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) One of my '76's is #3751......chas #4829002. Although a parts car, it's listed in the data file. I have owned it for almost 20 years as a car that had an engine fire and I acquired it before the crusher did. There is no indication that it is a replacement panel as the frame and fenders are straight and original. Even the bumper "lips" are original. Now I would ask,... are the bumper "lips" included on the replacement panel (RP)? You would think not if the "RP" was also meant to fit and adapt to all earlier years. But then you would have two extra large holes for the bumper shocks! The other is in a garage a few miles away. I'll check on it some time this week. I would ask other '76 owners to come forward and verify their front panel & VIN's to help solve this mystery. Don To follow up on the other '76.......#2324 chas #4439003. Like the previous, it only has the end plugs. Car is straight and unmolested with no signs of replacement or frame damage. The details are as they should be. I would say this subject is still inconclusive for the '76's. More '76 info is needed with good visual inspections. I do not doubt that this is the last variation. If I come across other '76's, I'll be sure to look. Don |
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