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[Tom_T]

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldo...LWAR1-1950-1985



COMMONWEALTH v. DON YENKO PORSCHE-AUDI


17 Pa. D. & C. 3d 21 (1980)



Commonwealth
v.
Don Yenko Porsche-Audi

No. 81.


Common Pleas Court of Washington County, Pennsylvania.


June 30, 1980.

Gordon F. Harrington, for appellant.

John J. Kennedy, Jr., Deputy Attorney General, for Commonwealth.

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ORDER

And now, June 30, 1980, the appeal of Don Yenko Porsche-Audi is sustained and the suspension by the Bureau of Traffic of the Department of Transportation of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is set aside.

Scotty, this means they vacated Yenko's suspension regarding State inspections, and doesn't really have anything to do with them being forced to sell the P+A dealership. It sounds like Yenko was the typical dealership though - more interested in selling cars & services, than in those pesky details, since they don't deny negligent record keeping, just the State's fraud accusation which brought about the more serious suspension penalty! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tom_T]

Scooter... The are at least 3 confirmed Yenko built 914s with that stripe package floating around the Pennsylvania countryside. When asked, Don stated:

"...our first Yenko car was a 65 corvair. When I saw the 914 at our Porsche Audi dealership, it just came natural. Air-cooled, engine in the middle and it had those looks that reminded me of our first "Yenko". Aside from the side strips, there was a slight interior treatment and we made sure each one of the Yenko 914s had every bit included in the handling package offered by the factory at the time. But hey, I'm a Chevy guy..."

Eric - if Murray's "914 S" was a Yenko job, could it have been Yenko who modified it with the Weber 44's?

.... do you know anything more about what the "Yenko Package" included for their version of a "914 S" &/or on those 3 confirmed ones?

[Tom_T]

Okay. I guess I eat my words then. Tom was right. I was wrong.

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Why Thank You Mike! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

.... but what about this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-10018-1355458462.jpg)

.... and your prior BS? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[MDG]

Okay. I guess I eat my words then. Tom was right. I was wrong.

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Why Thank You Mike! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

.... but what about this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-10018-1355458462.jpg)

.... and your prior BS? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Your welcome.

And no, I still stand by my theory that the entire "S" thing is the result of a heavy German accent and he was actually saying 'Ass.'

Not S.


Ass.

[dlkawashima]

Eric - if Murray's "914 S" was a Yenko job, could it have been Yenko who modified it with the Weber 44's?
.... do you know anything more about what the "Yenko Package" included for their version of a "914 S" &/or on those 3 confirmed ones?

Tom, Murray's 914 was a California car. Murray's car, and the other as well, look like they have the "S" from the late '80s era of Porsche badging, like this one from the 944 S2:



Regarding Yenko, the Yenko family did not open a P+A dealership till calendar year 1974, more than 18 months after the first sales of the 2L fours. I think it would be a big stretch to try to bring any Yenko tie in to the "S" story.

Company Name: YENKO, DON PORSCHE AUDI
Status: Active Filing Date: 04/01/1974

[balljoint]

Have we seen this one before?

[balljoint]

Okay. I guess I eat my words then. Tom was right. I was wrong.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Why Thank You Mike! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

.... but what about this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-10018-1355458462.jpg)

.... and your prior BS? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Tom,

Have you ever seen what Michael has done to my threads? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I feel your pain, but I'm pretty sure it's all in fun.

[Tom_T]

Your welcome.

And no, I still stand by my theory that the entire "S" thing is the result of a heavy German accent and he was actually saying 'Ass.'

Not S.


Ass.

Who's heavy German accent??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[scotty b]

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldo...LWAR1-1950-1985



COMMONWEALTH v. DON YENKO PORSCHE-AUDI


17 Pa. D. & C. 3d 21 (1980)



Commonwealth
v.
Don Yenko Porsche-Audi

No. 81.


Common Pleas Court of Washington County, Pennsylvania.


June 30, 1980.

Gordon F. Harrington, for appellant.

John J. Kennedy, Jr., Deputy Attorney General, for Commonwealth.

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ORDER

And now, June 30, 1980, the appeal of Don Yenko Porsche-Audi is sustained and the suspension by the Bureau of Traffic of the Department of Transportation of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is set aside.

Scotty, this means they vacated Yenko's suspension regarding State inspections, and doesn't really have anything to do with them being forced to sell the P+A dealership. It sounds like Yenko was the typical dealership though - more interested in selling cars & services, than in those pesky details, since they don't deny negligent record keeping, just the State's fraud accusation which brought about the more serious suspension penalty! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Tom, my posting that had absolutely nothing to do with the lawsuit within. It was merely to verify that Yenko did in fact still own a Porsche dealership in 1980. We now have proof he had a lot from at least '74-'80

[balljoint]

That Yenko dealership is in operation to this day. I wonder if they would even still have any information about packages that they offered on cars?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Especially since they seemed to not care too much for retaining their records.

I can't say that I have ever seen a picture of a 914 with Yenko striping with their name but since they were synonymous with Chevrolet it may be something they deliberately avoided.

I am sure I have seen the Yenko name come up before in relation to 914s though. That's what rang such a bell for me when it was brought up in this thread. One of those did you ever have the feeling of deja-vous before did you ever have the feeling of dejas-vous before things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I am curious about other Porsche Dealerships in the same geographic region at the time as well. A prestigious name like Don Yenko opening a Porsche dealer may have stepped on the toes of other Porsche Audi dealers. Or it is possible that they took over for a defunct dealership?!? Possibly with some older unmoved inventory that might have benefited from the boost of a special package.

I liked that Stinger Honda package, I am sure there is something out there related to their Porsche product. Perhaps there were even Yenko 911s.

Now that I think about it, they may have been more secretive about it, especially if Porsche was carefully trouncing impure North American marketing ideas.

[Tom_T]

Eric - if Murray's "914 S" was a Yenko job, could it have been Yenko who modified it with the Weber 44's?
.... do you know anything more about what the "Yenko Package" included for their version of a "914 S" &/or on those 3 confirmed ones?

Tom, Murray's 914 was a California car. Murray's car, and the other as well, look like they have the "S" from the late '80s era of Porsche badging, like this one from the 944 S2:



Regarding Yenko, the Yenko family did not open a P+A dealership till calendar year 1974, more than 18 months after the first sales of the 2L fours. I think it would be a big stretch to try to bring any Yenko tie in to the "S" story.

Company Name: YENKO, DON PORSCHE AUDI
Status: Active Filing Date: 04/01/1974

Dave, I see what you mean on those "S" badges on Murray's & the red one.

Yenko could've done his version after Porsche Germany had quashed the USA P+A's "914 S" marketing campaign, because....well, just because he could & was just cantankerous enough to do so! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But the P+A "914 S" marketing thing, are separate from this new subject of what Yenko did & whether or not he called or badged his version as "914-S" at all.

From Eric's post quoting what Yenko had said, they're making sure the 914-2.0 had all the Porsche handling bits on them, so that could mean it's a late 73-74+ era 914, when Porsche+Audi/Porsche AG made the sway bars & Fuchs & everything back to extra cost options.

The main "advantage" of the early 73 MY 914-2.0's marketed as "914 S" here in the USA only (maybe Canada too?) - is not that it's a "914 S" per se, but rather that you got a 914-2.0 fully loaded with all the options available from the Appearance & Performance Groups of options (only special order/add-on stuff like radios/speakers/antenna, AC, LSD, etc. weren't on that list) - all for the initial Aug./Fall `72 base price of $5199 East Coast POE & $5299 West Coast.

Late in 1973 MY after several mid-MY price hikes due to the escalating DM vs. the $ prompted them to offer de-contented 914-2.0's with lesser or no optional equipment, in order to keep the base price down. This was the norm for the rest of the 914 run 74-76 MYs. You can see the range of option group fitment for `73 at Jeff Bowlsby's 914 website, under the "Models" & at the "Window Stickers" pages.

IIRC they'd risen almost 150% to about $7500 EC-POE by March `73! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

For those who don't know, that purdy Orange 914 in Dave K's avatar is a confirmed late 73 2.0 which had been de-optioned & offered with only the F&R sway bars & Fuchs 2L wheels of the Performance Group, & IIRC Dave said it was marketed by the dealer as a "914-2.0 Sport" model.

Chime in if I've got any of this wrong about your 914 Dave K.

So back then & nowadays you can basically save yourself some time & trouble if you're looking for a GA 2.0 engined 914 which has all of the AG & PG goodies, by looking at 73 MY - & specifically the earlier 1/2 - 3/4 of that MY, cuz they were all fully loaded back then.

Whereas the later 73 MY - 74 MY GA & the 75-76 MY GC engined 914-2.0's were hit & miss as to what options the car came with, which probably only matters to CWs & original car collectors - since anyone can modify the engine & options on any 914 ..... even the badges! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[turk22]

My 73 2.0 was a June 73 build (from the VIN sticker 6/73).

It has everything that is listed on the previous pages 914S stuff that Tom posted.

Center Console w/gauges
5 Fuchs alloys
fog lights
Chrome bumpers
dual tone horns
it has the Front and Rear swaybars..... It also has the "914 2.0" badge in the back.

What I don't have is the original window sticker...man would I love to have that...

[914Eric]

Regarding Yenko, the Yenko family did not open a P+A dealership till calendar year 1974, more than 18 months after the first sales of the 2L fours. I think it would be a big stretch to try to bring any Yenko tie in to the "S" story.

What I was saying with my reference to the Yenko legend was that there are a long list of dealers that have made modifications and add-ons to cars over the decades. Many like the Yenko's have proven to be the most desirable cars in some cases. To be honest, I didn't even know Yenko had a Porsche dealership. Am I implying that my car is somehow Yenko special...No.

My dealer, Greene in Norwalk, added the aluminum kick plates, Porsche lettering on the rocker panels, and the most controversial of them all…An additional Porsche badge on the rear.

On inspection of the additional Porsche badge, you see that it is made identically to both the 914, and 2.0 badges. Same exact pins in the back, as well as the same exact mounting hardware and special washers. They are not some peel-n-stick junk that some salesman on a whim decided to slap on.

So if I choose to remove the badge, I would need to fill and sand the holes, and then re-spray perfectly Fine original paint on the back of the car. That seems stupid to me.

That is why I brought up Yenko. I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t remove Yenko engine parts or graphics that weren’t “Factory” and then re-paint the car. So my opinion is that what came from the Dealer is what's original. Others might think that I should remove this piece and repaint the car. I think repainting an original paint car is far worse than the added badge. And I think the badge looks cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

[Tom_T]

My 73 2.0 was a June 73 build (from the VIN sticker 6/73).

It has everything that is listed on the previous pages 914S stuff that Tom posted.

Center Console w/gauges
5 Fuchs alloys
fog lights
Chrome bumpers
dual tone horns
it has the Front and Rear swaybars..... It also has the "914 2.0" badge in the back.

What I don't have is the original window sticker...man would I love to have that...

Steve, though it's not "your" window sticker, I thik there is one from a 914-2.0 close to your build.

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/WindowStickers.htm

http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/ModelNumbers.htm
> the Model Number should appear on the window sticker &/or at the dealer sales invoice, and denoted equipment option groups, if included from the factory.

You could also contact Steve G/smg914 with the gorgeous 73 914-2.0 which was also a June 73 build, as he has all of his documentation (his is featured at the O&H Forum under the nailed thread: "The Few, The Rare...").

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=101921

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[Tom_T]

Regarding Yenko, the Yenko family did not open a P+A dealership till calendar year 1974, more than 18 months after the first sales of the 2L fours. I think it would be a big stretch to try to bring any Yenko tie in to the "S" story.

What I was saying with my reference to the Yenko legend was that there are a long list of dealers that have made modifications and add-ons to cars over the decades. Many like the Yenko's have proven to be the most desirable cars in some cases. To be honest, I didn't even know Yenko had a Porsche dealership. Am I implying that my car is somehow Yenko special...No.

My dealer, Greene in Norwalk, added the aluminum kick plates, Porsche lettering on the rocker panels, and the most controversial of them all…An additional Porsche badge on the rear.

On inspection of the additional Porsche badge, you see that it is made identically to both the 914, and 2.0 badges. Same exact pins in the back, as well as the same exact mounting hardware and special washers. They are not some peel-n-stick junk that some salesman on a whim decided to slap on.

So if I choose to remove the badge, I would need to fill and sand the holes, and then re-spray perfectly Fine original paint on the back of the car. That seems stupid to me.

That is why I brought up Yenko. I’m pretty sure people wouldn’t remove Yenko engine parts or graphics that weren’t “Factory” and then re-paint the car. So my opinion is that what came from the Dealer is what's original. Others might think that I should remove this piece and repaint the car. I think repainting an original paint car is far worse than the added badge. And I think the badge looks cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)

Eric - you definitely should not do that, as it could make yours no longer qualify for preservation class (survivor class in some car shows), as that & something else now or in the future could go past the 10-25% limit on repaints & changes - especially if there is some other bodywork ever needed in the future. It's best to preserve the original paint, etc. - so long as they are in good condition, since at 40+/- years old the survivors like yours are few & far between!

BTW - that Bahia Red 71 914/4 of my buddy's with the turned aluminum aftermarket threshold plates like yours that I posted above, Steve's Sahara Beige & I think Dave K's Orange 73's are also all survivors in original paint.

[nathansnathan]

You can see in the "914" and "2.0" on the right that the x height (typographer's term for height of a lower case x in any particular typeface) of the "914" lines up with the x height of the "2.0". The "914" has a wonky low x height. The "914S" badges shown above really butcher it imnsho.
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As a graphic designer, I cringe looking at that. The attention to detail just isn't there, so yeah I would totally say that it shouldn't be there, any of the "s"'s previously shown or the "PORSCHE" on the left in the pic above; they are just wrong to my eyes.

[Eric_Shea]

I don't think a 914S and a Yenko are the same thing. It was my understaing the Yenko's were 74's which would tie into the opening of his dealership. Maybe wanted to make a splash?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I vaguely remember a tub someone was putting together here and he said it was a Yenko?? LONG time ago though. No time to search it now. Must ship alloy calipers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Dave_Darling]

Nobody was saying that the "S" had anything to do with Yenko, or vise-versa. It was just used as an example of cars that had dealer-added parts being more desirable than the cars without.

--DD

[Eric_Shea]

See post 122

[MDG]

Your welcome.

And no, I still stand by my theory that the entire "S" thing is the result of a heavy German accent and he was actually saying 'Ass.'

Not S.


Ass.

Who's heavy German accent??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

That was a joke, Tom.