My 3.3L Subie Conversion Thread, Got me some 914rubber stuff Options

[914forme]

Looks like Magnaflow rounds to me, and Burns SS pieces where use to fab the collectors. Pretty easy when you get right down to it. Easy of me to say, now me getting it done, thats another matter. Oh Santa, please bring me a plasma Cutter and Tig Welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)

[Chris H.]

Pretty easy when you get right down to it. Easy of me to say, now me getting it done, thats another matter. Oh Santa, please bring me a plasma Cutter and Tig Welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/santa_smiley.gif)

EASY? If that's easy for you Stephen I can't wait for your build thread!

FYI all I MIGHT be getting a close look at Bob's car in a few weeks. I'll post videos and pics if so. It'll be great to see a really nice well-known car that's done, sorted, and has some miles on it. I might even DRIVE it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) . He's just about got the LS car done too. Here's a couple of pics I snagged from his blog:





How 'bout that paint?

[BIGKAT_83]

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[Chris H.]

Bob,

That thing looks amazing. So it's an LS Corvette engine mated to a Boxster trans... Can't wait to see it in person.

Those two teeners look like caged animals behind the fence (other one is a V8 conversion too) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

[euro911]

NICE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif)

[914forme]

Chris, Uh yeah, we will see if my skills keep up with my mind. Luckily I have a pro welder that can do some work for me. Welds tanks all night for his job. Guy lays perfect dimes. So when are you going to see Bob's cars? Man we all need detailed shots of those cars. I think Bob has the marketing savvy of Hugh Hefner. Just give us enough of a picture that we want to see more and more. I would love for him to write up detailed threads of the builds, I know they guy is supper busy, and you have to respect the fact, his cars get done.

[76-914]

Dang. Saw this pop up and thought you had begun work on your car again. Obviously, there are no Eskimo's or none of Admiral Byrd's DNA in your clan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) . I guess it will be March before you get back into it again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[BIGKAT_83]

Chris, Uh yeah, we will see if my skills keep up with my mind. Luckily I have a pro welder that can do some work for me. Welds tanks all night for his job. Guy lays perfect dimes. So when are you going to see Bob's cars? Man we all need detailed shots of those cars. I think Bob has the marketing savvy of Hugh Hefner. Just give us enough of a picture that we want to see more and more. I would love for him to write up detailed threads of the builds, I know they guy is supper busy, and you have to respect the fact, his cars get done.

I have been working in Toledo off and on for the last 2 couple of months. I drive down I-75 thru Dayton.
I've been thinking about giving you a call and stop by and check out your car.

Talk about being all over the place I'm working in Chile now. They run the DAKAR rally in South America now and it came within 6 miles of where I'm working. Got to see some of the trucks and bikes.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

[DBCooper]

Chile? Cool. You at least come and go through Santiago, I'm sure. You know that huge TV/Radio tower downtown that you can see from everywhere? I've been to the top of it.

Oops. Hijack, sorry, I won't do that again.

[BIGKAT_83]

Spent last weekend in Santiago.............Damn nice place(where I was at) Saw a few new Porsches.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Bob (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)I

[Chris H.]

Yeah I really need to update the thread on my trip to Bob's. Unfortunately there are no pics. It was a really weird, very cold, frozen-fog-in-the-air kind of day so pics were darn near impossible. I was able to spend a couple of hours there and will be going back soon to get some parts.

First, DB, no need to worry about hijacking. The thread is for interesting comments at this point, random or not!

So about the cars...

The blue EZ30 car is a “finished” conversion. It was cold when I got there, he cranked it up and then we looked around his shop for about 20 minutes. The thing just sat there idling, never even heated up all the way. You could hardly hear it running. We took it out and drove it for quite a while “spiritedly” (not crazy). It never got above 180 degrees and the needle didn't move at all, just like a stock Subie. Seemed like you could cruise along all day in it. Just felt solid. The exhaust system has an extra center muffler in it (look in his blog) which makes it sound really nice. Porsche-ish. It has power windows also. His shifter is like butter, a little longer throw than the MR2 and you hardly have to touch it to move it. Might have to reattach my extension. Also noticed than my shifter needs adjustment. 1st and 2nd gears are way too far left on mine. The suspension was tight too. I think it's all 911. It's a NICE driver, not a show car, and man does it run, stop, and turn well.

Bob's selling it for what sounded like a very fair price, so if anyone is thinking about a conversion but hasn't done much yet, you should take a look at this car. Skip the headaches. If I hadn't owned my car for 13 years I'd be all over it.

He also has an EZ30R engine and a trans already set up with a locking spool he's about to sell. The EZ30R is rated at 250hp. If anyone wants a cool engine for a conversion jump on it before he puts it on NASIOC.

The gray LS car is going to be a show quality car. He was working on getting the trans connected to the engine properly when I saw it. The adapter plate wasn't cooperating but he'll figure it out. Anyway it has Wilwood brakes, needle bearing suspension, Fikse wheels, the paint is very nice, he has deleted the vent grill up front and the fender seams, the hood will have a Mustang GT350 vent in it for radiator exhaust (looks really cool). The interior is super nice as well with all new inserts and seats. Looks like he used the Boxster center console too. The gauge console is all digital. There are a lot of cool little details; like he zinc plated the hood hinges, stuff like that. The suspension is set up to handle the engine power, which is key. Should be a very well balanced beast. And it WILL be a beast.

Did you get that Camaro yet Bob? Let's see that thing.

And Hi Kent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) . It warmed up a little around here. I'm hoping to get that new radiator fan switch installed this weekend if I can stand it in the garage. Also got new fans for my rad. The SVX ones pull air in weird directions. Picked up the ones for the Celica GTS rad.

[euro911]

... You know that huge TV/Radio tower downtown that you can see from everywhere? I've been to thetop of it. ...

Now I understand what prompted you to parachute out of the back of that 727 over Oregon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[DBCooper]

Yeah. About that. I just want to point out that all the speculation was correct and I didn't survive the fall, I swear. Plus the statue of limitations has expired. Long, long expired.

[914forme]

Chris, I have been working on my car, its just been under cover like the Manhattan Project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Pondering engine and transmission mounting currently. Had a design i my head, bringing the engine and trans under the car just did not make it work for me. So back to the drawing board.

And I still have not brought myself to cut the car, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I have a cut it up before not thinking about the future value, when the cars where cheap it was easy. Need a huge front sway bar, put it in. Build the mounts weld it up. Need to stiffen the frame, weld the parts in. So why ca't I cut a trunk, or an engine shelf. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

To that end I did flip the manifold which brings up a huge set of other issues, but it does fit better.



Not sure if I am going to do it this way or not.

[76-914]

Steve, if you have a chance; weigh the complete drive train. I'd like to know the difference.

[Chris H.]

Stephen,

Interesting...I'm seriously thinking about flipping mine and welding up the hole I cut for the intake. How hard was it? I hate that hole too!

EDIT: and did you flip JUST the top portion of the intake or both sections (it has 2 pieces)?

[mgp4591]

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[914forme]

Stephen,

Interesting...I'm seriously thinking about flipping mine and welding up the hole I cut for the intake. How hard was it? I hate that hole too!

EDIT: and did you flip JUST the top portion of the intake or both sections (it has 2 pieces)?

I flipped the entire thing, you will have to move the alternator! It is pretty easy if you ditch a bunch of stuff, you will have to move the air solenoid.

Looking at it today, I am thinking about doing something a little different. Keeping the bottom half flipped, and moving the return line, and inlet to feed from both sides of the engine. Ever since reading what SDS did for an intake on a 3.3, I have been thinking about making one myself. They did it out of steel, but for some reason, I am thinking about doing lost foam carbon fiber intake. I have seen someone comment on flammability, but then you know the internet, it is full of clowns, who say their cousin's, father's, sister's husband's corvette go up in flames. The forgot he doused it in gas, and diesel fuel, with a touch of kerosene just to give it a nice look. I'll do my own research, I have three ideas right now.

Single TB, main plenum. easiest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
ITBs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
Or my current favorite, but of course the hardest of all, Stacks looking like MEFI off a 911, going into an 911 style airbox. The filter will be behind the Single TB, which would be mounted behind the air snorkel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) or (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

Oh and I did have to cut a hole in my rear trunk today, so the first cut is done. Glad I am past that!!!! I had to make clearance for the clutch line. Might elongate it a little and pickup the fork, that would allow me to bring the engine up a little. But then we will see.

I will try and weight the drive train, I can squat 550 pounds right now. Not sure I want to dead lift a subie engine and trans and step on a scale. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) In reality I am not sure I have a scale that will tell me. To bad I don't have a set of corner scales. I could give you the total and what the cross weights look like. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Oh I know how I'll do it. But it will have to weight until spring, I'll load the engine in the truck, run down the grain elevator, and hop on the scale, the unload it, and get the weight difference. +-10 pounds okay for you?

Bob, there really ain't to much to see right now, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) , except a bare chassis, and a lot of pieces going in, and back out a few hundred times to get things mocked up, welded in, and then removed for paint work. Really kind of boring when you get right down to it. But your more than welcome to stop by. Just PM me hopefully Im in town, crazy work schedule right now also.

I really need to update my thread, just been doing stuff, I'll get to it. Maybe by the time I update it, I will have covered all my mistakes and it will look perfect. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

[Chris H.]

Great, thanks for the info. Where can I see this SDS intake you speak of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ?

One idea I had to add a little height was to use phenolic spacers in the intake. IIRC if there was just a LITTLE more height it would help with the fitment when flipping the intake. I have to pull the engine to fix a small leak at the oil pump so I might try it then. I'll keep you posted.

[914forme]

Intake Manifold build for EG3.3