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> Bernie Bergmann Turbo Kit, anyone seen one?
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post Jan 15 2013, 06:53 PM
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post Jan 15 2013, 06:57 PM
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I spoke to Bernie about 10 or 15 years ago.
he told me he lost money on every turbo kit he sold because of all the bench racers and tire kickers. he had to spend countless hours answering phone calls and talking to potential cuistomers who never bought anything. In the end he threw it all in a dumpster and said good riddance.

And ferg's right, you can't turbo a 914.



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post Jan 15 2013, 07:20 PM
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Just to prove Rob's big ass turbo motor does fit in a stock engine bay...
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post Jan 15 2013, 07:26 PM
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post Jan 15 2013, 07:57 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why do you say you can't turbo a 914? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Jan 15 2013, 08:43 PM
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It's an old joke...don't remember how it started..probably an "expert"saying there was some mechanical or engineering limitation that prevented a type 4 from being turbocharged. Used to come up frequently. I never got to say it first until today!!!! (I'm slow)

There have been several REALLY nice Type 4 turbo cars BTW. The one that comes to mind is nein 14's.
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post Jan 15 2013, 08:49 PM
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There are various stories, but I remember Jake Raby saying it on the ShopTalkForms T4 board more than ten years ago. There was a contingent of Europeans who were turboing their engines and using 103 and 106 barrels, getting huge horsepower, but needing to five and six stud the heads to keep them sealed. Jake thought that practice was unacceptable so answered turbo questions with "you can't turbo a T4." How it got to 914's I'm not sure but Jake has a pretty strong personality so it became kind of a joke on STF to repeat that to any newby who asked turbo questions. The guys who repeated it most often were those Europeans who'd turboed their cars. They thought it was hilarious.
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post Jan 15 2013, 10:55 PM
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I think those turbo engines have been photoshop-ed.

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post Jan 16 2013, 10:59 AM
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post Jan 16 2013, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(DBCooper @ Jan 15 2013, 06:49 PM) *

There are various stories, but I remember Jake Raby saying it on the ShopTalkForms T4 board more than ten years ago. There was a contingent of Europeans who were turboing their engines and using 103 and 106 barrels, getting huge horsepower, but needing to five and six stud the heads to keep them sealed. Jake thought that practice was unacceptable so answered turbo questions with "you can't turbo a T4." How it got to 914's I'm not sure but Jake has a pretty strong personality so it became kind of a joke on STF to repeat that to any newby who asked turbo questions. The guys who repeated it most often were those Europeans who'd turboed their cars. They thought it was hilarious.



I wasn't the one who started it.. It was on the original "Club" site first then it was carried over the STF. We've built numerous Turbo T4 engines over the years and made over 400HP on pump gas, but those days are long gone.

Just figured I'd add that :-)
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post Jan 16 2013, 07:08 PM
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gotta love the 2 techs in jeff's post. sandals!!! muttonchops are, were, groovy.


So could you tell the 'car guys' by their black toe nails from dropping stuff on their toes all the time??? Seems an odd choice of footwear for that environment!!! LOL
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post Jan 16 2013, 07:08 PM
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Wasn't it Jenny's brother who started it...?
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post Jan 16 2013, 08:18 PM
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Wasn't it Jenny's brother who started it...?


I think so, but that was a long damn time ago.. Too many arguments since then to remember the details.
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post Jan 16 2013, 08:34 PM
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gotta love the 2 techs in jeff's post. sandals!!! muttonchops are, were, groovy.


So could you tell the 'car guys' by their black toe nails from dropping stuff on their toes all the time??? Seems an odd choice of footwear for that environment!!! LOL


Ha, they are southern CA.
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post Jan 16 2013, 08:42 PM
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post Jan 16 2013, 08:47 PM
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gotta love the 2 techs in jeff's post. sandals!!! muttonchops are, were, groovy.
So could you tell the 'car guys' by their black toe nails from dropping stuff on their toes all the time??? Seems an odd choice of footwear for that environment!!! LOL
Ha, they are southern CA.
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post Jan 16 2013, 10:16 PM
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Wasn't it Jenny's brother who started it...?


This is my recollection as well. But there are occasionally errors digging in the memory bits.... ;-)

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