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| turdo |
 Jan 16 2013, 11:46 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 16-January 13 From: central kansas Member No.: 15,376 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Hello everyone! my name is Aaron and im from central Kansas. i recently traded an Audi of mine for a few other cars that an older gentleman had sitting around his property. among those are a 80 Datsun 280ZX, 80 450SL, 92 Subaru SVX, an 80 el-camino, and a poor beloved 74 914 with widebody fenders that had been sitting in the weeds for nearly a decade (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ... it just amazes me that someone can purchase these cars only to have it sit in the weather. i have decided to take this little jem on as a project car, and sell the rest.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1102.photobucket.com-15376-1358358413.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1102.photobucket.com-15376-1358358414.2.jpg) the interior is (use to be) burgundy, a color i dont think ive seen in a 914. after a brief look-over the car, it seems fairly rustless for being outside so long, however the floor board near the peddles has a couple holes in it, the interior needs nearly 100% replacing (gauges, lower dash, steering wheel seem fine) the engine is siezed but the clutch still engages and disengages the gearbox. no telling how bad the fuel tank or suspension bushings are just yet. i have yet to pick up the cars. so here are a couple of questions: 1. my biggest concern is the floorboard - is there a replacement piece i can buy, or just go at it with sheetmetal? id like to keep it looking as original as possible (i think an engman kit would be nice aswell) 2. how can you tell the difference between a 1.7, 1.8 or 2.0? 3. is it worth the work?? (my vote is hell yes) thanks for reading guys, thoughts, comments and concerns are welcome |
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| Chris H. |
Jan 16 2013, 11:57 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest 
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Welcome Aaron! Great find. You can get floor pans at:
Restoration Design You will probably need more stuff, and they have pretty much every panel available outside of NOS. If the engine is stock it will be a 1.8 or 2.0 for the year 1974... if it still has fuel injection post a pic of it from the top and we can tell you which one it is... As far as it being "worth the work", the amount of rust is usually the deciding factor. Post pics of the underside and engine bay. Are those flares fiberglass or metal? FYI lots of people (like me) are transplanting SVX engines into 914s. You can offer it for sale here if you don't want it. Does the SVX run BTW? Those rims are awesome. Never seen 5 lug "fans" before . The exhaust appears to be a Bursch Sport. VERY loud but cool. Bottom line is we need more pics...lots more... |
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| Madswede |
Jan 16 2013, 12:05 PM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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Your statement, "it seems fairly rustless for being outside so long, however the floor board near the peddles has a couple holes in it" scares me the most. Here's hoping it's not indicative of more serious issues elsewhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Those flares look extra large to me. I wonder if they're fiberglass? 5-lug conversion done on it too. Considering the interior, you can make it "look original" there, but elsewhere it would be cost-prohibitive IMO unless you start with a better candidate. In the end, only you can answer the question, "is it worth it?" I hope you find that the rust isn't terrible and you say "yes!" to restoring it to a fun driver. The more of these rescued the better, and I like idea of having a blank slate with a car that's already "non-original" ... as in wide-body, 5-lug wheels, perhaps redone interior ... make it your own! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| Kirmizi |
Jan 16 2013, 12:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
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Yes, replacement panels are available from various sources. If unmolested, the engine size can be determined by looking at the number of intake manifold studs per side; 4 studs 1.7 and 1.8, and 3 for 2.0. Plenty of great information on this site, learn to search and you'll overwhelmed with good tips and knowledge. I'd also suggest meeting up with someone who really knows these cars, at least to inspect the typical rust areas before deciding how much "work" you're able to do. Mike |
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| carr914 |
Jan 16 2013, 12:10 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,567 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States  |
QUOTE(Madswede @ Jan 16 2013, 01:05 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Those flares look extra large to me. I wonder if they're fiberglass? pretty sure those are the extra wide F/G Flares (11 inch wheels will fit) |
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| turdo |
Jan 16 2013, 12:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 16-January 13 From: central kansas Member No.: 15,376 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
they are indeed fiberglass, however the lower strip (black) needs to be molded to fit the panels.
as for the rust.. its only rained about twice in kansas in the past 3 years, and i have no fear of doing some panel work. it will be a first for me, but i look forward to it. HA i didnt notice the 5 lug swap.. i guess that means at some point someone knew what they were doing. ebay has new carpets and even seat sets for what i consider reasonable the SVX runs, but smokes (burning oil (valve guides??)) and the transmission is out, so its mainly good for parts. i will sell it for REALLY cheap. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i1102.photobucket.com-15376-1358361564.1.jpg) thanks for the fast replies! it gives me hope that i can take on this project. btw im no noob to porsche, ive had a couple 944's, my daily driver is an Audi A6 and my toy is a 79 Alfa romeo Alfetta sport sedan. |
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| mhuber45 |
Jan 16 2013, 12:53 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 14-September 11 From: St Louis Member No.: 13,557 Region Association: None |
what is the crazy red car in the pic, behind the SVX
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| Chris H. |
Jan 16 2013, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Looks like an old electric car from the '70's...
The MOST valuable pieces of the SVX are the drive train, so I would probably scrap that one...leather interior is somewhat desirable. svxworldforums.com if you want to post it there or part it out. |
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| turdo |
Jan 16 2013, 02:13 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 16-January 13 From: central kansas Member No.: 15,376 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the red door stop is a CitiCar electric vehicle. 3 or 4 hp and 50+ miles per charge. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
agreed. the SVX is a parter |
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| SUNAB914 |
Jan 16 2013, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 29-December 08 From: Fredericksburg VA Member No.: 9,880 Region Association: South East States |
My dad had one of those electric cars, I sold it on ebay 3 years ago for 4 thousand dollars. Sell the 914 and restore the 280zx it will be worth more in the future..
Don't discount that electric car, if it has a title it can be worth some good money! Good luck |
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| Jgilliam914 |
Jan 16 2013, 02:30 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,340 Joined: 30-July 12 From: Iowa / Florida Member No.: 14,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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What shape is the Yellow 1966 Dodge Dart in? I cut my teeth on driving one of those bad bastards slant 6 and 3 on the tree!! We used to be able to hide a 12 pack inside the air vents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) back in the day |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jan 16 2013, 02:51 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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you will depart with all your extra time and $$ to get an under-appreciated, under-valued fun mobile (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) OF COURSE it is worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| wingnut86 |
Jan 16 2013, 03:11 PM
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...boola la boo boola boo... Group: Members Posts: 1,053 Joined: 22-April 10 From: South Carolina Member No.: 11,645 Region Association: South East States |
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The world is your oyster (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Enjoy the next few years. The team on this site is extraordinarily ejudicated. Dave |
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| steuspeed |
Jan 16 2013, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,008 Joined: 12-July 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 13,308 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Good choice. Looks like a cool project. You'll have way more fun in the 914 then any of those other cars.
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| rick 918-S |
Jan 16 2013, 09:41 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,825 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region
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Cool vintage Western Turbines! I wonder if the car has wheel adaptors or a true 5 lug conversion... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png)
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| oz371 |
Jan 16 2013, 10:42 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 28-August 09 From: ontario, CA Member No.: 10,739 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Jan 16 2013, 12:51 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) you will depart with all your extra time and $$ to get an under-appreciated, under-valued fun mobile (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) OF COURSE it is worth it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| sixnotfour |
Jan 19 2013, 10:43 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,681 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Do It...Do It...
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| Mike Bellis |
Jan 19 2013, 10:46 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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My guess is a Chevy bolt pattern with wheel adapters...
Looks like a good project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
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| brant |
Jan 19 2013, 10:54 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,824 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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those aren't the rust area's
you need to pull the rocker covers. I'm betting anything that the jack points are completely gone from the looks of it... those are 1.7 heat exchangers so most likely thats what your motor is. weird that its got a real sway if its a 72 though...... could of been added. although the brackets look like they could be factory. What year is it according to the vin? that rear valance is really trick.... nicely flared. |
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