New Member! 74 914 widebody (needing resto), the pics you requested! Options

[G e o r g e]

those aren't the rust area's

you need to pull the rocker covers.
I'm betting anything that the jack points are completely gone from the looks of it...

those are 1.7 heat exchangers so most likely thats what your motor is.

weird that its got a real sway if its a 72 though...... could of been added. although the brackets look like they could be factory. What year is it according to the vin?

that rear valance is really trick.... nicely flared.

Brant he says it's a 74

[turdo]

vin on the sticker says 73, vin on the windshield A-pillar says 70. hmmm title says 73 though.. ill pull the rockers tomorrow, how do i do it?

as for wheel adapters. i will pull a wheel tomorrow and check it out.

[brant]

those aren't the rust area's

you need to pull the rocker covers.
I'm betting anything that the jack points are completely gone from the looks of it...

those are 1.7 heat exchangers so most likely thats what your motor is.

weird that its got a real sway if its a 72 though...... could of been added. although the brackets look like they could be factory. What year is it according to the vin?

that rear valance is really trick.... nicely flared.

Brant he says it's a 74

missed that
sorry I didn't pay more attention

they are 70/71/72 heat exchangers...
but they could of fit any year motor I suppose..
looks like a lot of work has been done, who knows...


regarding the windshield vin and door jam vin
since they show different years, you likely have a situation where one half is early the other late.

it was really very common for accident cars to have a "clip" put on where half of the car was welded together to repair the wreck... its likely. There is a vin plate in the front trunk, see what it matches against the other 2.

if you think about it. These cars are easiest to piece together in the interior compartment.

the rocker covers usually have screws in the door threshold. and one in each fender. by pulling them you can see the longitudinals and jack point.

[PanelBilly]

You need to have a BBQ and invite all the locals. I assume we have some folks in your neck of the woods. Nothing like a team to pull a car apart and determine all the weak areas

And welcome to the club.

[turdo]

anyone from kansas??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

[turdo]

broken trans mount..

is this a "side shift" transmission?? ive seen the term, but not sure if its special.

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[billh1963]

I don't want to be a party pooper but that car is rusty as hell. Look at the thread on my car that Scotty B just finished up. I'm not saying your car can't be fixed up; however, you need to go into this with realistic expectations.

[billh1963]

broken trans mount..

is this a "side shift" transmission?? ive seen the term, but not sure if its special.

side shifters are on all '73 and newer cars. Nothing special.

Look on the web for pictures. Basically, a side shifter has the shift rod coming into the shift console on the side like this:

[turdo]

sorry. shift linkage

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[turdo]

I don't want to be a party pooper but that car is rusty as hell. Look at the thread on my car that Scotty B just finished up. I'm not saying your car can't be fixed up; however, you need to go into this with realistic expectations.

do keep in mind, these pictures do not do the car justice. it has patches of rust as expected, but areas that ive seen on other cars that are completely gone, are still in good shape on this one.

besides, who says i have unrealist expectations?? i expect to replace any rust that needs replaced, in a correct manor. this isnt my first restoration, just my first 914.

[Dinobx]

Wow, nice rear sway bar you got there.
Good luck and have fun with the project. It'll look great once it's done. And I'm sure you'll have a blast driving it. Nothing else gives you that intense visceral experience like a 914.
Dino

[SirAndy]

vin on the sticker says 73, vin on the windshield A-pillar says 70. hmmm title says 73 though..

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Let's hope i'm wrong about this, but i have seen this a few times before. You may be in for a surprise.


Look at the VIN stamped on top of the pass. side front fender (under the hood) and see if it matches the VIN sticker.
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[billh1963]

I don't want to be a party pooper but that car is rusty as hell. Look at the thread on my car that Scotty B just finished up. I'm not saying your car can't be fixed up; however, you need to go into this with realistic expectations.

do keep in mind, these pictures do not do the car justice. it has patches of rust as expected, but areas that ive seen on other cars that are completely gone, are still in good shape on this one.

besides, who says i have unrealist expectations?? i expect to replace any rust that needs replaced, in a correct manor. this isnt my first restoration, just my first 914.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I hope your assessment (and commitment) remains the same once you start digging into the bodywork. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

BTW: You have a side shifter

[turdo]

I don't want to be a party pooper but that car is rusty as hell. Look at the thread on my car that Scotty B just finished up. I'm not saying your car can't be fixed up; however, you need to go into this with realistic expectations.

do keep in mind, these pictures do not do the car justice. it has patches of rust as expected, but areas that ive seen on other cars that are completely gone, are still in good shape on this one.

besides, who says i have unrealist expectations?? i expect to replace any rust that needs replaced, in a correct manor. this isnt my first restoration, just my first 914.

I appreciate your enthusiasm. I hope your assessment (and commitment) remains the same once you start digging into the bodywork. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

BTW: You have a side shifter

cant wait to get started (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

what surprise do you think i'll find with the missmatched vins???

[SirAndy]

what surprise do you think i'll find with the missmatched vins???

A spliced tub (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

Major body work like flared fenders etc. is often a sign of insurance payout after an accident.

If the car was hit hard in the front, back in the day the accepted fix was to splice in a complete front end from another car.

If that happened to your car, you should be able to see a line going across where the two halves were welded together.
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[turdo]

and if thats the case.... might aswell just make it an SVX powered track car?

[billh1963]

and if thats the case.... might aswell just make it an SVX powered track car?

If indeed spliced, the value will only be the enjoyment you get from it. In other words do what you want to it. Don't bother trying to make it "original"

[Dave_Darling]

they are 70/71/72 heat exchangers...

Those same exchangers were used on the 1974 1.8 cars. I think I spied the square 1.8 air cleaner in one of the engine bay shots, so that would fit.

--DD

[brant]

they are 70/71/72 heat exchangers...

Those same exchangers were used on the 1974 1.8 cars. I think I spied the square 1.8 air cleaner in one of the engine bay shots, so that would fit.

--DD

I thought all of the 75 and 76 cars had the short stub pipe headers with the late style heat exchangers. The less efficient kind that reversed flow. I know my 75 had them anyways......

[Dave_Darling]

Yes, the 1975 (and 76) cars had the awful roundy-round exhaust. The 1974 1.8s had the same exchangers as the 1.7s did. The muffler was a bit different, at least than the 70-72 mufflers, but the exchangers were the same.

--DD