Porsche 914 - 8 GTT, November '24 Update Options

[Maltese Falcon]

Left + Right quarters in place, starting to fasten it down. There are various combinations of Dzus fasteners and mating pins. The Pegasus kit has a variety of 4 fasteners and 4 pins. I spent lots of time getting these panels to fit tight by trial and error, finally getting the correct combination. The blue tape has notes jotted down, which were then recorded to my data log.

[Maltese Falcon]

Rear quarter inboard support struts.
I made these bolt-in style, and built jigs so we can have replacement struts on hand. Small fasteners make set up work quick, then replace with Dzus fasteners for the final fit.
The small OE support bracket gets trimmed away.

[Maltese Falcon]

Support strut on the forward area of the rear quarter

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SafeCraft brand outer cage net set up, features a real clean quick- release design; beneficial for both driver and safety crew.

[Maltese Falcon]

This is the small receiver for the quick release SafeCraft plunger, I machined the contour to match the roll bar where it will be welded.
I guess you can say that this is a Hand built U.S.hot rod (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)

[Maltese Falcon]

Getting into those tight spots with the mig welder

[Maltese Falcon]

These solid steel "Circles" were cut to the contour of the trailing arm ends and welded in place.
Handy when lashing down the 914 while transporting in the trailer.

[Cracker]

Amazing build...equally amazing amount of money to throw at this project! I love it. Just out of curiosity...what is the projected weight "range" of the finished car? Are you intending to have hinged doors or dzus fasteners? Will this car be street legal too?

Keep up the great work - I enjoy seeing the progress pics. THANKS for sharing!

PS: I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how you fit the turbo's and manifolds back
there - it will be a tight space with ALL that going on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tony

[MATTYLITE]

Amazing build...equally amazing amount of money to throw at this project! I love it. Just out of curiosity...what is the projected weight "range" of the finished car? Are you intending to have hinged doors or dzus fasteners? Will this car be street legal too?

Keep up the great work - I enjoy seeing the progress pics. THANKS for sharing!

PS: I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how you fit the turbo's and manifolds back
there - it will be a tight space with ALL that going on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tony

Thanks for this Tony. Thankfully all the engineering / body work / metal fabrication is all done in house, which makes this project more cost effective than one would think, allowing us to budget for the more expensive items that we don't make in house such as the drive train / wheels etc.

The projected weight range was never an actual number we've built the vehicle around. When it's all said and done, it will be a very light car with a lot of horsepower. TBH, a little more weight wouldn't hurt at this point! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This car will have the OEM hinges for its doors and has already been cut around to fit the NASCAR style int. roll cage. We had planned on using fiberglass door skins, but the rigidity of the all metal doors is what changed our minds.

And yes, the car will be street legal, but we don't plan on driving it much on the street. Mainly to several local / very close car shows. Other than that, it will be on the trailer.

Thankfully Maltese Falcon (Marty / aka my dad) is a metal bending guru and will fabricate the entire turbo back exhaust system as if it came Straight Out Of Stuttgart!! (NWA Pun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) )

[Cracker]

All I can say is I'm very impressed! I understand (but am not personally capable and talented enough to execute such a build) what it takes to pull this off. Do you mind sharing with everyone how
you've built-out the front of the car? You have allot of good ideas... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

With that said - I "challenge" your car to a duel of sorts, either at Road Atlanta or Barber Motorsports Park - your choice. Looser on "best lap time" pays transportation fees!

I'm (only) running an "itty-bitty-four-cylinder" - no brainer! The only caveat is the "owners" have to drive the cars. This might be the only way I see YOUR car in action...even if its only for awhile - my rear view mirrors are very small. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

I (and many, many others) would love to see your car on the East Coast - I'm sure many enthusiasts would be willing to "travel-in" if it could be scheduled at a DE in advance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tony/Cracker

Thanks for this Tony. Thankfully all the engineering / body work / metal fabrication is all done in house, which makes this project more cost effective than one would think, allowing us to budget for the more expensive items that we don't make in house such as the drive train / wheels etc.

The projected weight range was never an actual number we've built the vehicle around. When it's all said and done, it will be a very light car with a lot of horsepower. TBH, a little more weight wouldn't hurt at this point! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Thankfully Maltese Falcon (Marty / aka my dad) is a metal bending guru and will fabricate the entire turbo back exhaust system as if it came Straight Out Of Stuttgart!! (NWA Pun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sunglasses.gif) )

[MATTYLITE]

All I can say is I'm very impressed! I understand (but am not personally capable and talented enough to execute such a build) what it takes to pull this off. Do you mind sharing with everyone how
you've built-out the front of the car? You have allot of good ideas... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

With that said - I "challenge" your car to a duel of sorts, either at Road Atlanta or Barber Motorsports Park - your choice. Looser on "best lap time" pays transportation fees!

I'm (only) running an "itty-bitty-four-cylinder" - no brainer! The only caveat is the "owners" have to drive the cars. This might be the only way I see YOUR car in action...even if its only for awhile - my rear view mirrors are very small. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

I (and many, many others) would love to see your car on the East Coast - I'm sure many enthusiasts would be willing to "travel-in" if it could be scheduled at a DE in advance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tony/Cracker

Will have front pics for you shortly. Currently working our way to the front so we will be updating as we go with that.

We're always down for some friendly competition... this is after all a race car (not a wash n' shine car)... although it could be too..

We mainly follow the POC racing schedule (West Coast mainly), but plan on attending PCA events once the car is done, so I'm sure we'll be on the East Coast soon enough. We want to experience many tracks with this car as possible and can't wait for it to be on one!

Matt

[Cracker]

Barber would be a meaningful location for you to visit since its home to their Porsche Sport Driving School (a very expensive Cup Car program - 10G's - for a weekend!). I believe I remember you stating your car would be an interpretation of a modern "Cup" car - of sorts. If so, there are very good baselines for comparison to that model at Barber. Another big benefit is its not nearly as "dangerous" (far more forgiving) as Road Atlanta...

Thanks for the pictures in advance...as you make progress.

Tony

We're always down for some friendly competition... this is after all a race car (not a wash n' shine car)... although it could be too..

We...plan on attending PCA events once the car is done, so I'm sure we'll be on the East Coast soon enough.

Matt

[Maltese Falcon]

Keep up the great work - I enjoy seeing the progress pics. THANKS for sharing!

PS: I am REALLY looking forward to seeing how you fit the turbo's and manifolds back
there - it will be a tight space with ALL that going on! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Tony

This is not the current v8 car we are building, but its sister.
This undercar pic reveals 2 of the Turbonetics gtk turbos tightly packed under a 914 trunk.The trunk is full of intercooler and the engine bay has a resident flat fan 3.3 living there. We actually have more real estate with the v8 build as there is no trunk floor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Cracker]

Thanks for sharing...although I have room, between the dry sump tank, cooler, intakes, and all - I just can't imagine finding ADDITIONAL room for all the extra items
you need to mount. I'm keeping two seats in the car but if not it would be a breeze. Keep'em coming!

T

This is not the current v8 car we are building, but its sister.
This undercar pic reveals 2 of the Turbonetics gtk turbos tightly packed under a 914 trunk.The trunk is full of intercooler and the engine bay has a resident flat fan 3.3 living there. We actually have more real estate with the v8 build as there is no trunk floor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Maltese Falcon]

Small update for October; making the template over the tunnel for the SQS sequential shifter. It will run a cable back to the inverted trans. Just getting a feel for the basic stance of my cabin space. That old 914 seat works perfect for today's test.
Marty

[r_towle]

You are sick, in a good sort of way.

Could you post the table or jig you built to hold the car still while you do this welding?
I am looking for se ideas.

[Mueller]

This build just keeps getting better and better...

Does the Cayenne/Panamera V8 bolt to any of "standard" Porsche or Audi'ish transaxles?

I like that the Audi 4.2 bolts to a Boxter transmission, however hard to pass up a fairly low mileage Porsche engine for a little bit more money.

[Maltese Falcon]

You are sick, in a good sort of way.

Could you post the table or jig you built to hold the car still while you do this welding?
I am looking for se ideas.

The jig that I use on this build was built from 2"x 6", .250" wall rectangular steel tube. This rectangular "Base" was built on a flat steel table.
We added legs and caster wheels/brakes so we can move around the shop. The 914 bolts down to the rectangular base in 4 places.
I bolt 2 adjustable side bars (solid 1" sq. steel) in the doorways/to Targa bar...record, check and adjust the dimension at the door openings. Two more support bars; 1 spanning across the front shock towers, and 1 spanning across the upper rear longs.
I also sent it over to the media blaster and paint shop on the rolling jig. I like this height for working around from all angles. It is also at the correct height to allow the v8 to roll underneath it.

[Maltese Falcon]

This build just keeps getting better and better...

Does the Cayenne/Panamera V8 bolt to any of "standard" Porsche or Audi'ish transaxles?

I like that the Audi 4.2 bolts to a Boxter transmission, however hard to pass up a fairly low mileage Porsche engine for a little bit more money.

Unfortunately these v8 engines do not mate to any of the Porsche transaxles without a custom adapter plate. Our plate is cnc milled from T6 aluminum and is only .750" thick. That is a good dimension as I can't have a super long drivetrain that might protrude into the cabin. I'm not sure about the boxster transaxle bolt patterns-to-v8 Porsche. We also moved the starter motor into the standard transaxle location ; on the Cayenne it is mounted below the intake plenum in the V of the engine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Marty

[Cracker]

Thanks for the updates...always a "treat" to see what (and how) you folks are building this car. Keep'm coming please. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Tony