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johnpierre |
Mar 14 2013, 11:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
i have a couple of quick questions for you all. the center console that houses the 3 gauges-was it the same for all years. meaning did it change from one year to another or were there two different types/styles, etc. or was it the same for all years?
and two is it relatively simple to i wire up the three gauges to my 73 that didn't come with the console originally? there is one for sale and i want to move on it asap? i read in my new 914 book (thanks porsche dreamer) that in 73 you could of had it as an option. well i want to add it as an option now (only 40 years late, no big) ha ha. jp |
7TPorsh |
Mar 14 2013, 11:15 AM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
I think there were two versions from 1973 on. For with and without air conditioning.
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Kaduku |
Mar 14 2013, 11:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: 1-January 13 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 15,324 Region Association: None |
I was thinking about doing the same thing, but I think I already have the wiring setup underneath the dash. If you don't, check out this eBay listing which supposedly takes out the guess work and makes it a 5 minute job.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Center...4ae&vxp=mtr |
johnpierre |
Mar 14 2013, 12:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
I was thinking about doing the same thing, but I think I already have the wiring setup underneath the dash. If you don't, check out this eBay listing which supposedly takes out the guess work and makes it a 5 minute job. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-Center...4ae&vxp=mtr awsome. thx for that... |
76-914 |
Mar 14 2013, 01:03 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
The wiring is already in the tunnel. You will need the gage harness or make your own. Either way it is quick n easy
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doug_b_928 |
Mar 14 2013, 01:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 712 Joined: 17-January 13 From: Winnipeg Member No.: 15,382 Region Association: Canada |
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reharvey |
Mar 14 2013, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 16-July 08 From: N. E. Ohio Member No.: 9,308 Region Association: North East States |
The wiring is already in the tunnel. You will need the gage harness or make your own. Either way it is quick n easy Did all 914s come from the factory with the wiring for the additional gauges? Only 73 and later cars have the wiring in the tunnel for the center console. |
johnpierre |
Mar 14 2013, 02:48 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
The wiring is already in the tunnel. You will need the gage harness or make your own. Either way it is quick n easy nice. i hope this guys gets back to me quick... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
doug_b_928 |
Mar 14 2013, 02:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 712 Joined: 17-January 13 From: Winnipeg Member No.: 15,382 Region Association: Canada |
@reharvey: cool, thanks for that info.
@ johnpierre: I'd be interested in doing this too. It would be great if you could do a 'how to' write-up so we could see what is involved. |
Tom_T |
Mar 14 2013, 03:49 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,320 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
jp - there was only 1 style non-AC console & 2 AC styles for VPC & DPD AC dealer options. There is some good equipment by MY info at p914.com
PS edit - there were 2 different OT gauges used - 73 with a wider red band & 74-76 with a narrow one, & IIRC they used different senders at the engine too. IIRC the dealers cut your console sides & used either the VPC or DPD supplied short 3-gauge face. The other 2 would only matter if you have AC (see pix below if your do). Your 914 isn't in the data base, so I can't tell which MY you have, but ray harvey & the others above are correct that 73-76 had the harness leads & quick-connect clip for the harness. If not, you'll need to get the wiring diagram & some help to figure out which to cut into for the harness & hard wired them in using a quick-connect & short pig-tail, so you can easily disconnect it again for any interior or tunnel work, etc. (& not have to cut wires). If the one you buy doesn't have the console's sub-harness, then I think Jeff Bowlsby makes them or can do so. DPD AC short console w/ inline angled gauges & AC controls above inline w/ console below - . VPC AC short console w/ triangular pattern flat gauges & AC gauges above offset to right of console below - . Good Luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
johnpierre |
Mar 14 2013, 05:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
man i am always amazed at the genuine love that all the members have for each other (maybe that is why we are somehow always on this site). thanks for all the info and i just confirmed everything you said via my 914 book by Dr. B Johnson. this console looks like it is in great shape although i not seen the condition of the gauges yet (i have asked for pics), if the gauges check out i am going to move on this today and install it with my new carpet kit from auto inter along with the new thresholds that i got from a member already. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
ps i will register the 14 in the next week or so... |
type47 |
Mar 15 2013, 06:40 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
...- there were 2 different OT gauges used - 73 with a wider red band & 74-76 with a narrow one, & IIRC they used different senders at the engine too. ..., you'll need to get the wiring diagram & some help to figure out which to cut into for the harness & hard wired them in using a quick-connect & short pig-tail, so you can easily disconnect it again for any interior or tunnel work, etc. (& not have to cut wires). If the one you buy doesn't have the console's sub-harness, then I think Jeff Bowlsby makes them or can do so. I think the console wiring is about tracks 51-63-ish in the schematic below |
Chris H. |
Mar 15 2013, 07:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Yes the '73 gauge caused a lot of undue concern...peopl thought their cars were overheating because the red zone was too wide.
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malcolm2 |
Mar 15 2013, 07:32 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,747 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
Not a wiring comment.....But a question about the console itself. I remember driving a 914 w/console that seemed a bit tight around the gas pedal. That is my shoe just barely fit between the console and the brake. I started looking closer and noticed that most pictures I see have the console flared in at the foot well. Did they change the style, or did I drive a car with a home-made console?
I would also like to add one, but if my foot doesn't fit and all the consoles are flared, I am not adding one. Also remember that the defrost lever is different for a console car. So you will need one that came from a console car. I guess they are longer, since the console makes the tunnel a bit taller all the way back. |
Chris H. |
Mar 15 2013, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The console comes to somewhat of a "point" at the far end to give you some foot pedal room...yours might have come apart and is separated or it could be a homemade deal.
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Cairo94507 |
Mar 15 2013, 09:18 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,130 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I agree re the foot issue. A stock console comes to a point by the pedals and I believe, unless you wear size 18 shoes, will allow plenty of foot room.
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malcolm2 |
Mar 20 2013, 08:49 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,747 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
I agree re the foot issue. A stock console comes to a point by the pedals and I believe, unless you wear size 18 shoes, will allow plenty of foot room. It was not my car. I was just test driving it. I had never driven a 914. Have never driven mine. 22 months on the stands. my shoe was tight. I think I was wearing some casual running shoes size 11. |
tod914 |
Mar 20 2013, 09:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Not that anyone would notice, but the 75-76 model year consoles use a different vinyl.
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johnpierre |
Mar 20 2013, 03:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 11-September 12 From: culver city, ca Member No.: 14,913 Region Association: Southern California |
man you guys are so helpful. as it turns out the guy selling the console never got back to me. maybe he sold it to someone else. as of today his add is still up on CL. man i want to buy it this console now. W.E. but it is good to know i have this thread and when another comes around i know which console was the correct one offered and how to install it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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Chris H. |
Mar 20 2013, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,049 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Not that anyone would notice, but the 75-76 model year consoles use a different vinyl. You would Tod! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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