i want a better speaker system, anybody have four speakers or sub in 914 Options

[chikenfajita]

hello, i have a pretty good radio but the 2 speaker thing sucks. anybody have a better sound system, maybe including a subwoofer and amp in their 914?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[Dr Evil]

Dude, you realy need to check out the resources section. Look for Morphenspectra

Click on "The 914 Forums" at the top of the page, then to the second category called "Resources"

You will find all kinds of stuff that you cant afford, but want really bad.

[scotty914]

in about 3 weeks i will be offering a sub enclosure that replaces the foam insert in the pass foot well. it will be set up to take an 8 inch sub. it will be frp and uncarpeted to hide under the stock carpet. it will be around 50 bucks. you just supply amp and speaker of choice.

also several others sell new speaker pods for bigger speakers, and audioculture sells a complete foot well pod that has speaker and amp

[VegasRacer]

in about 3 weeks i will be offering a sub enclosure that replaces the foam insert in the pass foot well. it will be set up to take an 8 inch sub.

Hurry up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) I want to buy the 1st one. I am in the process of getting all the other pieces. I just got a new Kenwood EZ500 head unit and a KAC-8401 amp (640 watts). I still haven't decided which 6 1/2" Boston Speakers I am going to put in some new pods from Morphenspectra. NX67, SL60, SL65 or RC620?

What is the max depth for a 8" sub that will fit in the footwell enclosure? Is it going to be sealed or ported?

[Joe Ricard]

Dang all of that is such small time.....
My sub spans the whole firewall behind the seats. Oh my bad that is my fire wall. no sound pads and when the motor starts to howl the firewall starts to thump. Hence the ear plug on road trips to the races.

[Carlitos Way]

God... I so wish someone would come up with a nice 10-12" sub enclosure for the back pad. IMHO that's where it belongs.

[my15window]

I just fit two 6x9 speakers in my center console, it just made it though

[Dr Evil]

If you have the coin, I found some new subs from blaupunkt (I think) that were anly 3" thick. The cheapest was listed at $300. They are on the website. I figure that a sturdy enclosure mountin it facing forward or sideways behind a center consolw ould be great. Or, if you don't have a center console, a 3" could likely mount verticle under the dash.
If I had the money, it would be mine.

[justmarty]

theres some stuff on the autoatlanta website about fitting a subwoofer into the foam footpad..... dunno how well it would work, they also do replacement pods for bigger speakers..

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[scooter311]

I have an amp and two 8 inch subs that need a home - one will fit nicely in your cabinet, and you'll be smelling a purchase after the holidays are over. Oh, that, and your 6.5 inch replacements as well - I hate the stock 5x7s.....
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[IronHillRestorations]

God... I so wish someone would come up with a nice 10-12" sub enclosure for the back pad. IMHO that's where it belongs.

Frequencies below 250hz are non directional. So as long as the speaker is in the cabin somwhere, or the enclosure vents into the cabin, a subwoofer could go anywhere.

[Joe Bob]

The "Rocket" had....

a round bazooka style bass and put it on the floor in fornt of the passenger seat. Unless you knew it was there, you did not notice it. I also crammed two six by nines in the door panel.

I mwas able to get dirty looks from blue haired old ladies with the top on and the windows up.....

[horizontally-opposed]

Please sign me up for the foot well sub as well. Will I be able to hide it under carpeting?

BTW, I've had a four-channel Pioneer (I know...) amp to run a four speaker Boston Acoustics set up in the doors (a tidy install, with the tweets hiding up by the door pulls and blending into the basket weave quite well and the 6.5s in the lower doors) and (once upon a time) a sub "box." Ditched the sub because it took up too much legroom and I have to say that I only miss it a little. The BA speakers are AMAZING for 6.5s in terms of bass.

My two cents...

pete

[Jeffs9146]

My Sub

[Jeffs9146]

Sealed at the top and fiberglassed inside!

[Twystd1]

I think I stated it in an earlier thread somewher that it is VERY IMPORTANT to NOT let the sound waves from the back of the sub find the sound waves from the front of the sub within the passenger compartment. IF POSSIBLE.
(7th order enclosures are perfect for this)

I.E. it helps if ya have a sealed sub enclosure OR you gotta send the back wave outside the car for OPTIMUM base. The front wave cancels out the back wave when they hit each other. This also goes for MIDS and MID base speakers.
This cancels out the volume of sound (DB) and quality of the sound wave in a BIG way.
Tweeter are sealed on the back (with rare exception) Therefore it is not an issue.

There are isobarik, 5th and 7th order enclosures, tubes and all kinds of ways to get around this. Some work OK... Others suck. Just depends on the car.

Just because a system sounds Killer in a Honda.. Same system might absolutely suck in a Chevy or a VW. Depends on how ya do it. And ya gotta experiment a bunch on each system to make it right.

Cause cutting holes in the firewall is kind of a problem. The biggest problem with subs in the firewall (in a sealed enclosure) is that the voice coils in the woofer get hot after a time from engine heat. And the crisp bass simply goes away. Sounds like a speaker that you placed in a mud bath... (Unleess you can keep em kewl)

Remember that all of this is only nesasary if you really need/like excellent sound. If ya just want decent sound.... Do whatever works.

I built a 914 system some years ago for an regional IASCA event. Took home 2nd place in fact. (yup, got beat by a Buick GNX)

It took me bout a 100 man hours to get it right on the install. And bout 20 hours with a stereo RTA and my ears and much speaker positioning tweaking to tune it right.. Thats what the client wanted and that is what he got.
I think I charged him bout 10 G for that system. It can be done very well. if ya have the time and knowledge. (and a crap load of duckets)

It just kinda depends how good ya want it to sound. If you are really good at fabricating and don't have fear of cutting a bit of metal. And you can handle basic fiberglass enclosure making and molding. You can build a killer system for a G or so in cash and boat load of labor....

Then ya gotta figure out how to keep the 60 cycle hum from the alternator out of the system, which is indicative of spurious signal and grounding issues in a teener and many other cars.

That can a be a real PITA. The fix for that takes good equipment. Clean grounds, caps and coils on the hot leads to everything and the best RCA cables money can buy. Unless your using DIN cables or optical fiber.

Then the crossovers become very consequential, As this will setup your drivers (speakers) to conform to your interior in a way that the sound becomes alive and tight.

Hell i could write a book... OOOps.. I did....

If ya need a few suggestions. I will help. Just mail me... And I will see what I can do....

I only know high end stuff. Thats all i did. That is my only experience.

Gunna sleep now...LaterZzzzzzzzz

Just my .02 worth......

And by the way.. I LOVE THIS FORUM... Bets folks I ever met.....

Twystd1

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[chikenfajita]

i like that jeff, very cool

[IronHillRestorations]

I built a 914 system some years ago for an regional IASCA event. Took home 2nd place in fact. (yup, got beat by a Buick GNX)

It took me bout a 100 man hours to get it right on the install. And bout 20 hours with a stereo RTA and my ears and much speaker positioning tweaking to tune it right.. Thats what the client wanted and that is what he got.
I think I charged him bout 10 G for that system. It can be done very well. if ya have the time and knowledge. (and a crap load of duckets)

any pics?

[iamchappy]

I like mine just fine the way they are.

[iamchappy]

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