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CptTripps' Restoration 2 - The Grey Matter Build, Back in Doug’s garage |
Root_Werks |
Mar 16 2020, 10:27 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,532 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
It's been a while since I caught up on this thread. What great progress! You seem so close to getting back on the road.
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theer |
Mar 16 2020, 11:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
I know!
I was shooting to get her finished last Fall (it's running and I even got her to pass State inspection!), but the turbo failure cost me a lot of time and I ended up just putting it away of the winter. It seems I will be spending more time at home in the near future, so time to get back to it. |
914forme |
Mar 17 2020, 03:18 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Nice to see this car coming along
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CptTripps |
Mar 20 2020, 04:19 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Did you check to make sure the bolts for the sway bar are both tight? That could be the "clunk" you're talking about.
GREAT to hear that she's sorted, and (more importantly) fast! Also: WE NEED TO SEE PICS! |
theer |
Mar 20 2020, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Yep - they were loose, too, but now tight. I probably need shorter end links, but that's for later.
I'm certain the noise is from the strut - I can make it clunk by lifting and lowering the corner by hand. |
theer |
Mar 24 2020, 10:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Ok- here’s a picture of the top of the strut. I put the impact wrench on it to make sure it was tight, but it still has maybe 1/8” play up & down.... just enough to make noise.
There’s a slot in the shaft, but no slotted washer. Any tricks to get this right? |
mepstein |
Mar 25 2020, 07:38 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,691 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Looks like it's missing the large concave slotted washer. #8
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914forme |
Mar 27 2020, 10:17 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I have them, if you need the Tom
If these are a mono ball mount or insert, not sure if it needs one, but if it has play it needs something. The large washer, does one thing well, it keeps the strut if the rubber mount fails, the strut doesn't drop out of the upper mount if that should happen. You would know if it happens as it would go a bit wonky, but you could survive, and get the car stopped. |
theer |
Mar 27 2020, 10:51 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks, Stephen. I'd like to at least try them.
They would help to let me torque the nut tight, but I'm not sure the washer will help tighten the gap which is allowing the allowing the strut to move up & down. I'll send a video clip. |
theer |
Mar 27 2020, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Close up of the strut and movement:
trim.10382841_FD17_47FE_B49E_7A58CF247F5E.MOV ( 1.59mb ) Number of downloads: 164 |
theer |
Mar 27 2020, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Does the link work?
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Amenson |
Mar 27 2020, 11:40 AM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None |
I think that the strut nut is tight, looks like the monoball is moving in the housing. It is probably held in with a snap ring but it might also be held in with a crew in piece like these:
Monoball strut example |
Amenson |
Mar 27 2020, 11:47 AM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None |
I think that the strut nut is tight, looks like the monoball is moving in the housing. It is probably held in with a snap ring but it might also be held in with a crew in piece like these: Monoball strut example Pretty sure these are what they are but cant find a picture of the underside: Ebay Link Clunk Discussion: DP Strut Tops See if you can get a picture of the bottom so that we can see how the monoball is held in. |
theer |
Mar 27 2020, 11:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks Scott - yes, they look to be them. The reviews are not confidence inspiring.
I'll try to get a look from underneath this weekend. |
Amenson |
Mar 27 2020, 12:05 PM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None |
Thanks Scott - yes, they look to be them. The reviews are not confidence inspiring. I'll try to get a look from underneath this weekend. Looks like the design was borrowed from Weiltmeister...there should be a snap ring. Must be a spacer missing. Weltmeister This whole working from home thing is making me really productive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
914forme |
Mar 27 2020, 04:07 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
To the manufacturer - I know Tooling paths cost money and time, but come on take some pride in your work, and make the last pass overlap, smooth out your tooling paths.
Oh sorry, things like that just irritate me. I don't think you will get the play out of them. As Scott says they are held in by a snap ring. From what I am seeing the ball is moving in the bearing structure, most likely they used a teflon lined ball socket, and well the teflon failed somewhere along the line. I have strut tops with stock rubber, or with poly inserts, either set I can toss in a box and send over. All the washers also. I'm not a huge fan that the Nut is not seated down so the nylock washer is in the threads, but hey, some loctite would fix that also. |
theer |
Mar 29 2020, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 31-July 15 From: Dover, MA Member No.: 19,014 Region Association: North East States |
Well, Scott was right- those are the mounts & the ball is only held in by a snap ring. Destined to fail. I put a shim-stock washer in there and it helps a little, but not completely.
Check out the damage to the housing- I left the chipped out chunk on top. Pretty much junk- eventually the snap ring won’t have a groove left to hold on to. Washers won’t help, and in fact will use up precious threads for the nut (already not engaging the Nylock.) Stephen -I’d be interested in your top mounts with poly inserts. |
2mAn |
Dec 17 2020, 05:37 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
Any updates? I was hoping this would end with some burnout pics or something
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matthepcat |
Dec 31 2021, 02:58 PM
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Meat Popsicle Group: Members Posts: 1,462 Joined: 13-December 09 From: Saratoga CA Member No.: 11,125 Region Association: Northern California |
Came here to find this thread that I was following 7 years ago. Nice to see it was running. Hope it went out and had fun this past summer.
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Porschef |
Dec 31 2021, 03:31 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,180 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
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