CptTripps' Restoration 2 - The Grey Matter Build, Back in Doug’s garage Options

[mgp4591]

I've stayed here a dozen times but normally on the 14th or 15th floor. I needed 2 connecting rooms this time. They have me 912 and 914. Not too shabby.

918 and 919 would've been nice too! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[CptTripps]

919 wouldn't happen. There are no "odd" numbers in a lot of asian hotels. (Mandarin Oriental is where we were.)

[CptTripps]

I THINK I just figured out my intercooler issue. If I mount the radiator on the decklid, and convert it to a "GT" style lid, I can mount the rest of it underneath. The tubing is still going to be plentiful, but with some 3" and 2.25" silicone tubing and elbows, I'll be able to get it done without any welding.

Progress....

[bulitt]

I THINK I just figured out my intercooler issue. If I mount the radiator on the decklid, and convert it to a "GT" style lid, I can mount the rest of it underneath. The tubing is still going to be plentiful, but with some 3" and 2.25" silicone tubing and elbows, I'll be able to get it done without any welding.

Progress....

Doesn't it have to be in the air flow to provide cooling?

[CptTripps]

I have a fan for it so I was thinking I just needed to pull air into it. Do I need to run more lines from the radiator for it? That's going to be a giant pain in the ass, but better I learn now, than after I finish building the center console.

[CptTripps]

Would this be an appropriate place to mount the intercooler radiator? Is having an "air gap" going to mess anything up? (the distance between the two radiators.)

I'm going to hate having SOMETHING ELSE up the center tunnel, but this seems like the only option. The tubes won't be all that hot anyway, just the water from the intercooler. The extra length may give it more time to cool down anyway.

I'd remove the fan from it, and maybe use that as a secondary fan for the radiator. It's smaller, but could work well as a secondary.

[Dr Evil]

That would make for a lot of air mass to move a long distance before getting to your engine. I think that would be problematic, but I do not know for sure.

[bigkensteele]

That would make for a lot of air mass to move a long distance before getting to your engine. I think that would be problematic, but I do not know for sure.

It is not the intercooler itself, but the radiator for the liquiid cooled intercooler which I assume will still live back with the engine.

[CptTripps]

That would make for a lot of air mass to move a long distance before getting to your engine. I think that would be problematic, but I do not know for sure.

It is not the intercooler itself, but the radiator for the liquiid cooled intercooler which I assume will still live back with the engine.

Correct. I'd be mounting the water cooler up front, and the intercooler in the back by the turbo.

I also think I bought the wrong intercooler. The builds I was modeling mine after at the time all had the intake manifold flipped to the other side, and the alternator relocated. I didn't do this, so I'm fighting a losing battle with the setup I have. I'm thinking I go with one of the "canister" intercoolers instead. Or at least one of the ones with both ports on the same side like one of these.

Routing is still a royal PITA, but I think I can get it done with the "Type 23" where the "in/out" are on the same side.

If there was an easier way to do this, I'd be all over it. I think I'm pretty screwed in the "easy to do" department. My builder struggled with the setup he was thinking, so when he came to look it over with me last week, we had lot of combined head-scratching.

He's coming over later today to look at a few options with me. There HAS to be a way to do it...there just has to.

[CptTripps]

I forgot to post a pic of what I have right now to play with.

It's called a "Type 13" on the frozenboost websiite.

http://www.frozenboost.com/index.php?cPath...ffdc35d367cf31f

[effutuo101]

From the first set of pictures, I have the first on. You don't need to have that much space as it is cold water being cooled. You can mount the radiator and fan in the engine compartment and call it done. I will post a pic of my set up later.

[CptTripps]

From the first set of pictures, I have the first on. You don't need to have that much space as it is cold water being cooled. You can mount the radiator and fan in the engine compartment and call it done. I will post a pic of my set up later.

I WISH your setup would work for me. I have a rear trunk though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I think routing it all behind the driver would be best for the intercooler. I was trying to get the radiator under the rear trunk, opposite the exhaust. (On the "cool" side of the trunk.)

Other than the firewall, there really isn't a great spot. Thought about the deck-lid, but that may be a PITA too.

Ugh!

[Dr Evil]

Ah, yes. The water cooler. My bad :duh:

Might have to notch the rear trunk for the intercooler.

[effutuo101]

you can hang it off the trunk floor out of the way. doesn't mater where the cooler is, just that it is cool.
I almost put it where the muffler would normally go.

[mikesmith]

Would this be an appropriate place to mount the intercooler radiator? Is having an "air gap" going to mess anything up? (the distance between the two radiators.)

The air gap will mean that air will tend to go around, rather than through, your intercooler. You might be better off looking for a different cooler (looks like maybe a long skinny oil cooler would fit between your mounting bars there?)

Alternatively, it looks like you have room to move the radiator sideways; you could stack an oil cooler vertically alongside it and then play with ducting to balance airflow between it and the main radiator...

[CptTripps]

I wish I could use the trunk. All my wiring goes there and it'd be a serious project to move it.

I'm working on the interior now. Need to have some noticeable progress or I'm going to drive myself insane. I'll take the car to my engine builder and we can figure out the intercooler over a weekend or something. It's just too much for me to think about right now.

Working on the center console and I'm realizing the plates I had made up are TOO big for a reasonably sized center. I'm going to re-design that tomorrow when I'm at the office. Not too bad actually. Just a few adjustments and I'll make the new board out of a piece of perforated Aluminum I have. Could look cooler ultimately too.

[CptTripps]

So....my center console idea didn't pan out how I'd wanted. The plates I had made were just a little (lot) too wide. So, it looks like I'm starting over on the center console idea. I think I have a plan though.

I can make it shorter, giving me ample room in the back for my feet, and POSSIBLY add the sub too.

Here's the new plate I'm working out. I'll incorporate the nav system and switchboard into the same plate, giving me more room for things. It'll also be wide enough at the front to JUST snug over the center support and leave me plenty of travel for the shifter.

[CptTripps]

FML...

I had to do a running total for Hagerty.

Adding up receipts isn't EVER a good idea.

Good news: I can justify $40K in coverage pretty easily. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Bad news: I could have bought a 2001 996 Turbo and been driving it right now.

[CptTripps]

Spent the evening with my turbo. I THINK the plan I put together is solid. A few mods but nothing crazy. I also found the part I've been looking for to join the turbo's oil intake to the motor. Whew. That one was going to be a PITA if I had to re-build my own. Minor victories add up over time.

In other news, the donor for my next build showed up last night. 2005 Saab 92x with some motor issues. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[CptTripps]

Still limping along...but I think I figured out the Intercooler stuff...finally. But I don't like the answer.

I'm going to move and re-wire the ECU so I can cut through the area I have it mounted and get it into the trunk. I'll mount the radiator for it under the car as planned, and be in business. Re-wiring isn't going to be all that hard, and I think I can leave everything I have pretty much in place. Thank god I have a separate set of wiring that I bought for the Hydra. I'll just use those.

Getting there...