Front Sway Bars Options

[ChrisFoley]

don't forget the old H&H sway bars

They go way back. The 914 front bars are sort of an adjustable version of the stock bar IIRC.
I haven't seen more than a couple of them installed on cars I've serviced over the years.

I was asked if I wanted to buy all the H&H inventory and tooling just a few years ago, but I want to focus on 914s and not spread my attention to other things.

[sixnotfour]

Automotion sold em out west before Weltmeister came about.

[Eric_Shea]

A stock 15mm bar is my favorite for a street driven 914.

Ron, the 13 was a very early 911 bar. 16mm was the stock early 911 bar until the under-body bars came along. The last thru-body bar was the first 930 bar at 18mm... then all went to the under-body design.

I believe a 19mm Weltmesiter bar has adjustable arms and, they should be long enough to get a stock 15mm feel out of that geometry (set the drop links all the way to the end first and work your way in until you ruin your ride quality beyond what you like). That would probably be the easiest choice in that price range if you want adjust-ability. Otherwise, stock bars are great for street cars. Just enough to stop the roll and not enough to ruin your ride.

[wndsnd]

just bought this stock set up off evil bay

15mm with some new bushings, I will see when it arrives, how I did.

It will give me a start, you would think Porsche thought things out pretty good for up to 2.0 ltrs.....

I can always change the bar out and add adjustments later.


John

[Eric_Shea]

Once you get it installed you'll be scratching your head as to why they didn't mandate these things on "all" 914's. I think that's a good value with all of the bushings being new etc.

[ChrisFoley]

I think that's a good value with all of the bushings being new etc.

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Its an excellent value!
IMO a used stock bar is worth more than a new Weltmeister 19mm.

[HalfMoon]

I wonder what size would be good for my sb converted teener for the 5 lug front? I'm using yellow konis and red mabachs with 225/50/16's front and 245/45/16's in back.
8/10ths neg camber frnt
1.5 neg camber rear
.16 toe in frnt
Just a hint of neg camber in the rear
4 degrees caster frnt
I'd love to use the stock 15mm (as they are cost effective) but I have a feeling a 19 would be best...doubt I need much adjustablity as it's a street car.
Car is new to me and so I'm just now figuring out how it feels.
Thing was so toe'd out when I got it the tires were squeelin. Jeez.
Thoughts?

[wndsnd]

I have not received the bar or supports yet, but I decided to get started.

I found the template for the brackets on the Bird Tech Site.

I had to scale this as it did not print to scale originally.

To prep the inner well, I used a torch and steel wool to get off the undercoat. Then I used a die grinder to clean off the paint so now I have virgin steel to work with.

The factory really made this easy by embossing the area.



I also prepped the fuel tank area. Again, the factory stampings made this easy.



I am going to hold off drilling any holes till the brackets, bar, and mounts arrive. I might have to make some adjustments if they all do not perfectly match as they are coming from different sources.

The Bird says go to 1" on the large bar hole. This will allow over a 25 mm bar if wanted at some point so this seems reasonable to me. I started to cut the recess for the inner bracket and then decided to wait.

Parts will arrive tomorrow... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

John

[Trekkor]

Here's what comes with the Smart/JWE front bar:








KT

[wndsnd]

Gees,

Just when I am starting to feel good about my decision to buy a used stock bar you show me this?

Very Sweet,

Double the bolts, looks like no welding, infinite adjustability, very sweet.

I bought an old diesel trawler. It only goes 7.5 kts. Everyone speeds by me. I have a saying, "It costs money to go fast" Same with the cars .....

But that sure looks like a nice set up....


John

[Eric_Shea]

Yeah... that 31mm bar outta be "sweet-on-da-street" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)