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Rear spring shock install question, what have I done wrong? |
r_towle |
Aug 27 2013, 01:10 PM
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bottom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I like it low. Honestly, 2-4th from the bottom... really depends on what you like. the lower you go, the cooler it will look, just saying. rich |
wndsnd |
Aug 27 2013, 01:52 PM
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bottom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I like it low. Honestly, 2-4th from the bottom... really depends on what you like. the lower you go, the cooler it will look, just saying. rich Thanks rich, I moved up to the 4th groove because I am concerned with tire clearance .The tires/rims I bought off the net and did not come with the car. The fenders are not rolled but the hell hole side had much work. I will adjust once I get a powertrain in the car. |
wndsnd |
Aug 27 2013, 03:18 PM
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Finished.
Thanks everyone. Really sorry Type 47 that I high-jacked this thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I hope you have yours sorted out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
Type 47 |
Aug 27 2013, 05:53 PM
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Finished. Thanks everyone. Really sorry Type 47 that I high-jacked this thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I hope you have yours sorted out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Not an issue, again I don't think you hijacked as much as continued the conversation. I too have to set my ride height and the car is totally apart. |
Type 47 |
Aug 27 2013, 06:14 PM
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so from the pictures the large coils are bottom and the small coils are top? Right?
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r_towle |
Aug 27 2013, 06:18 PM
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I don't think he has progressive springs, so I would OT use his picture as a reference.
Add to that, the shorter coils go on the bottom. |
martinef1963 |
Aug 27 2013, 06:32 PM
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Here is your exact setup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Once it's down and your not going neg G not a problem. Otherwise zip tie it on the top. You'll need to select a ride height on those. If you've got a 6 try the 4th perch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Why would you zip tie on the top? I've read on the forum of this procedure, but really have not read "why?" I too have the same set up as this post. Knowledge is power, or like someone once told me knowledge is "potential" power. thanks, Fern |
wndsnd |
Aug 27 2013, 06:40 PM
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Type 47 |
Aug 27 2013, 06:43 PM
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I don't think he has progressive springs, so I would OT use his picture as a reference. Add to that, the shorter coils go on the bottom. OK, I'm confused...which spring placement is correct? Yes the perch is upside down...it's my previous pic before I fixed that (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i139.photobucket.com-11790-1377472264.2.jpg) |
messix |
Aug 27 2013, 06:55 PM
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it doesn't really matter.
and no need to tie off the springs to anything unless you plan on jumping the thing like a Baja truck. just remember when you let the car down after being jacked up to ensure the springs are seated. |
r_towle |
Aug 27 2013, 07:04 PM
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You are fine, they are not progressive.
If you are around this weekend, I will see if I can swing by for a look see at your progress. For the zip tie question... I have 180 lb springs which are shorter than stock. So, when I jack up the car, I can want to make sure the springs stay lined up correctly with the spring perches, and you cant see the top easily. So, most of us zip tie the top of the spring to the upper spring perch. When you jack up the car, it keeps the spring in place with the upper perch. When you set the car down, you can see, and easily feel the lower perch to make sure the spring is oriented correctly with the perch. Rich |
messix |
Aug 27 2013, 07:16 PM
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I don't think he has progressive springs, so I would OT use his picture as a reference. Add to that, the shorter coils go on the bottom. OK, I'm confused...which spring placement is correct? Yes the perch is upside down...it's my previous pic before I fixed that (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i139.photobucket.com-11790-1377472264.2.jpg) these are progressive springs.... |
messix |
Aug 27 2013, 07:17 PM
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martinef1963 |
Aug 27 2013, 07:35 PM
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You are fine, they are not progressive. If you are around this weekend, I will see if I can swing by for a look see at your progress. For the zip tie question... I have 180 lb springs which are shorter than stock. So, when I jack up the car, I can want to make sure the springs stay lined up correctly with the spring perches, and you cant see the top easily. So, most of us zip tie the top of the spring to the upper spring perch. When you jack up the car, it keeps the spring in place with the upper perch. When you set the car down, you can see, and easily feel the lower perch to make sure the spring is oriented correctly with the perch. Rich Thank you Rich! |
wndsnd |
Aug 27 2013, 07:48 PM
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You are fine, they are not progressive. If you are around this weekend, I will see if I can swing by for a look see at your progress. You are welcome anytime Rich. I appreciate your comments and help. For the zip tie question... I have 180 lb springs which are shorter than stock. So, when I jack up the car, I can want to make sure the springs stay lined up correctly with the spring perches, and you cant see the top easily. So, most of us zip tie the top of the spring to the upper spring perch. When you jack up the car, it keeps the spring in place with the upper perch. When you set the car down, you can see, and easily feel the lower perch to make sure the spring is oriented correctly with the perch. Rich |
r_towle |
Aug 27 2013, 09:05 PM
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I don't think he has progressive springs, so I would OT use his picture as a reference. Add to that, the shorter coils go on the bottom. OK, I'm confused...which spring placement is correct? Yes the perch is upside down...it's my previous pic before I fixed that (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i139.photobucket.com-11790-1377472264.2.jpg) these are progressive springs.... These are progressive springs. Is easy to tell, the shorter softer coils are wound tighter than the middle mid range coils or the upper stiffer coils. The tighter wound coils should go at the bottom, but I cannot find a definitive recommendation from any one source. Give what they do, the soft coils at the bottom will make the little bumps less annoying. When you get into it, the upper lower coils are all compressed and the upper and midrange coils ae doing the hard work. Rich |
r_towle |
Aug 27 2013, 09:07 PM
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Finished. Thanks everyone. Really sorry Type 47 that I high-jacked this thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I hope you have yours sorted out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Wndsnd, you DO NOT have progressive coils. You also won't need to zip tie your coils to the top if you needed a spring compressor to install them. Is only required if the springs are loose when the upper nut it tight. Rich |
brant |
Aug 27 2013, 09:33 PM
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too low gives you terrible suspension travel
too low often blows out your shock annually the rear ride height is (for me) based on the front ride height you need a downward rake to the car when all is finished and enough range of suspension travel to absorb some bumps and not bottom out your shocks. too low makes the car perform less well in the corners and gives a terrible ride over minor bumps or street applications. |
wndsnd |
Aug 28 2013, 06:19 AM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Finished. Thanks everyone. Really sorry Type 47 that I high-jacked this thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I hope you have yours sorted out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Wndsnd, you DO NOT have progressive coils. You also won't need to zip tie your coils to the top if you needed a spring compressor to install them. Is only required if the springs are loose when the upper nut it tight. Rich Absolutely correct. I did use compressors, and I did not have to use tie wraps. Since they are not progressive I would guess there is no top or bottom to the spring, but I did allign them by the manufacturer's lettering. John |
r_towle |
Aug 28 2013, 06:49 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,704 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Finished. Thanks everyone. Really sorry Type 47 that I high-jacked this thread, but thanks for bringing this to my attention! I hope you have yours sorted out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Wndsnd, you DO NOT have progressive coils. You also won't need to zip tie your coils to the top if you needed a spring compressor to install them. Is only required if the springs are loose when the upper nut it tight. Rich Absolutely correct. I did use compressors, and I did not have to use tie wraps. Since they are not progressive I would guess there is no top or bottom to the spring, but I did allign them by the manufacturer's lettering. John Its all good now.... Rich |
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