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Axles shortened in subi swap? |
Mwood |
Sep 5 2013, 08:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey, Im getting ready to send my cv axles to be machined for subaru cv joint doj's on the trans side.
Has anyone else done a subi swap and retained the 5mt subaru trans and needed to shorten their axles, or used hybride axles that they knew were shorter? Would love not to have to ship them out twice. Thanks Also.. What happened to the guy selling swap parts as Coldwater914? Is he still around? I was going to order a couple of his products.. Ill do a search Mitch |
jimkelly |
Sep 5 2013, 09:17 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
several have
and I think they used Dutchman http://www.dutchmanaxles.com/services pls keep us posted ian at coldwater is trying to put together a group buy of sorts but this may be a while. see post #180 http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...6674&st=100 do a search here for "dutchman" and you should find some related threads. seems bigkat was going to 5 lug hubs/stub axles, so he had 911 axle machined. I do not know if 914 axle is thick enough?? it is long enough, but you may need to get a 911 axle machined on both ends if you want to remain 4 lug?? http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...amp;hl=dutchman |
Mwood |
Sep 5 2013, 09:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
I should have mentioned im running 5 lug rear with 911 axles, should be thick enough. I sent that user a message about it, havent heard so i was gonna ask here. I think dutchman was the company i talked to about getting it done.
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BIGKAT_83 |
Sep 5 2013, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States |
Both 911 and 914 axles can be used. I've had both done.
Bob |
sawtooth |
Sep 5 2013, 10:15 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 9,211 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I used 914 axles with a 5 lug conversion and had Dutchman do the machine work. See 3rd photo down for the complete assembly in this post.
And here's the specs I used for Dutchman's to re-spline. You'll definitely want to take your own measurements, but they should be close to what I came up with. Or just buy a pair of sway away axles from Ian at ColdWater |
jimkelly |
Sep 5 2013, 10:34 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I don't know how strong suby cv's are but 914 cv's are certainly a weak point.
seems going 5 lug, with 944 cvs and 914 axles, is most cost efficient? http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=80641 |
Mwood |
Sep 5 2013, 10:54 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
I used 914 axles with a 5 lug conversion and had Dutchman do the machine work. See 3rd photo down for the complete assembly in this post. And here's the specs I used for Dutchman's to re-spline. You'll definitely want to take your own measurements, but they should be close to what I came up with. Or just buy a pair of sway away axles from Ian at ColdWater I cant find any ordering or contact info on the coldwater site. I was going to get one of his spline couplers.. I dont want to order one from australia, Anybody know how to get ahold of that guy to order parts? Im sure im missing something obvious Also thanks for those notes, when i called dutchman they just asked me to send the 911 axles with inner cv removed and the subaru axle and remove doj, they didnt ask for those measurements.. |
Mwood |
Sep 5 2013, 10:57 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
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sawtooth |
Sep 5 2013, 11:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 25-June 08 From: Boise, ID Member No.: 9,211 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Both 911 and 914 axles can be used. I've had both done. Bob Did you have to take any length off of the axles as well as resplining them? Thanks Bob may have a different length but on my 914 axles I shortened them to 18" which seemed to work well. Also if Ian doesn't have anymore spline couplers, Bob posted this a while back about the Kent Moore tools #498427100 locking sleeve, could be a great solution. |
76-914 |
Sep 5 2013, 11:40 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
That's probably the way to go. I've sent him a couple of pm/emails re: the coupler and have yet to receive a response. That's usually a caution flag for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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Mwood |
Sep 5 2013, 02:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
That's probably the way to go. I've sent him a couple of pm/emails re: the coupler and have yet to receive a response. That's usually a caution flag for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Yeah hasnt responded to anything Ive sent.. Ill try the Kent Moore. If it breaks ill let people know on here. |
jimkelly |
Sep 6 2013, 04:30 AM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
that bob is one resourceful individual !!!
jim -- Both 911 and 914 axles can be used. I've had both done. Bob Did you have to take any length off of the axles as well as resplining them? Thanks Bob may have a different length but on my 914 axles I shortened them to 18" which seemed to work well. Also if Ian doesn't have anymore spline couplers, Bob posted this a while back about the Kent Moore tools #498427100 locking sleeve, could be a great solution. |
IM101 |
Sep 6 2013, 11:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: 9-November 10 From: Boise Idaho Member No.: 12,367 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hey guys,
Sorry I have been off the radar as of late, I am back and will be much more responsive. my number is 503-720-2981 email is ian@coldwater914.com. Thank you for alerting me to the fact that i did not have any contact info on the site, the site went live right in the thick of things before the wedding and i wasn't able to give it a good going over. Mwood, I believe I have responded to all of my pm's and emails if you did not get anything back from me please feel free to give me a call. -Ian |
Mwood |
Sep 6 2013, 11:20 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
that bob is one resourceful individual !!! jim -- Both 911 and 914 axles can be used. I've had both done. Bob Did you have to take any length off of the axles as well as resplining them? Thanks Bob may have a different length but on my 914 axles I shortened them to 18" which seemed to work well. Also if Ian doesn't have anymore spline couplers, Bob posted this a while back about the Kent Moore tools #498427100 locking sleeve, could be a great solution. Bob is my hero And Ian, no worries, life happens, thanks for your email. |
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