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Signal Single Orange 74 EG33 Swap, Gone but not forgotten |
mbseto |
Aug 29 2016, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,257 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Good to see you back on the horse!
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914forme |
Oct 15 2016, 08:22 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Well it has been a long time since I updated this thread. I have been doing many things 914 related except working on my 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
First off I made it to Okteenerfest - 914 less, but had a great time. Roads where great fun, even in a VW Jetta TDI! I meet some great people and saw some great 914s. My wife was the lucky one and got some great stuff which she promptly handed over for good use. I spent last weekend meeting Doug and helping to move his 914. it is now getting some work done, and I am glad I could help in a little ay to get the 914 running. So that brings us to today: First day of Build Off Challenge 2017 I am in the part Duex group. So if you don't wish to read the whole I'll get you up to speed. Parts have come in from Chris. Rear Trailing Arms are converted with 911 e-brakes, stiffened the Chris Foley way. Powder coated, and Elephant Racing Poly Bronze Bushings installed. Front Spindles have been raised, thus lowering the front. Which then brings us to the top of the strut, where we will find new strut tops. We will have spherical bearings, and camber and caster adjustments. The rear suspension pickup points will be raised by 2” using one of Chris’ kits installed. He does great work, and glad to have them on my car. Brakes parts are here, and well they should stop the car. Lots of work to do on this car to make go again. GOALS: Chassis Work and Welding Done. Yes I actually plan to finish welding the car. I calculate another 75 pounds of welding wire will be used. And most likely another 40 pounds of TIG filler. Install the Engine Get it running / driving Finish body metal work Make it one Color Drive to Okteenerfest 2017 |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 06:02 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Here is how the 914 sits as of 7:30 am yesterday: Day One of Part Duex Challenge Build.
So that is where I begin the second round from. |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 06:19 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Now for yesterdays progress October 15th, 2016 Day 1 of Build Off Challenge Part Duex.
First up finished my rebuild of the steering rack. Had to mill the inside of the housing to accept the Quaife Gears, bolt in affair my ..... Not sure where all the pictures went of the rebuild and boring process (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) So you get to paint your own based off my description. I disassembled the rack, started the reassembly to find the a Quaife gear hit the housing. It was just to big to physically fit. So my limited arsenal of tools to the rescue. The steering rack housing was to big to go into my Sherline Mill. So I made a Guide on my Lathe. The guide fits into the opening of the housing and allowed me to use my Rotator and my drill press to bore the housing to allow the gear to fit. Times like these I need a Bridgeport! But hey it worked perfectly. Here is the assembled rack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) And shaft bolts safety wired up. Don't want to loose a steering bolt. Over kill 100% YES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) You may bore I got ride of the steering donut and went direct drive, I did that 20 years ago, after a discussion with Jon Lowe. When you raise the rack with bolt on bump steer kits they can hit on some chassis. Mine was one of them. So return the geometry back closer to normal, I took the spacer out. Never looked back. Just don't put your fingers in the spokes of the wheel, it might hurt. Rack is done, Quaife installed, Turbo Tie rods installed, standard tie rod ends removed. |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 06:34 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Day 1 still, October 15th, 2016
Built the front struts: And my damn Sony camera lost the build shots (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) So here are the finals. Oh I did find one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) This is almost how I got them back, I did a test fit of the Koni to see if I needed any parts. Last year I sent these off to Chris at Tangerine to get the spindles raised, and have the arms reset, and the Rebel Racing Bump Steer Kit installed. Chris' work is stunning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Thrashed on them and this is the final installation: Been a long time coming to get it here. Detail shot of the back side. Front shot for you all addicted to brake porn I would like to thank Chris at CFR and Tangerine Racing it was well worth the wait. And Also the guys at Rebel Racing for making the caliper adapters and the massive rotor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Other parts not seen in the build. Brake cooling ducts, with the hub seals to get more of that air down the rotor vanes. 996 calipers. Koni Yellows, custom valved, advantage of being in southern Ohio, I have two Koni rebuilders with 100 miles. These went to the factory. New bearings and seals. They will come back apart for touring and lubing before the final assembly. Need them for other work on the car. Should have done before I removed the old stuff. Hind sight is 20/20 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 06:53 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
More from October 15th, 2016 It was a pretty good day, but then assembling parts makes for great forward progress. It is the fabrication that slows you down.
So on with the show. Got my Rear Trailing Arms back from _______________________. And the answer is: Looks like I am doing an ad for Chris, no I am not paid for these endorsements just a satisfied customer. Installed the 911 brake parts, this is the picture I took to make sure I could get them re-assembled correctly. Notice a part missing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) The spreader bow and springs the one piece that makes the dang thing work. Replacements order, the ones I have will turn up, the minute the post drops the ordered parts onto the door step. And final assembly: Item not seen Elephant Racing Poly Bronze Bushings Rebel Racing Caliper Bracket All of Chris' hard work - yep his arm boxing trick is in there as are the re-enfocing plates, 911 rear brake adapter, bearing covers, etc.... FAG bearing 930 CV compatible stub axle is buried in the arm. Not sure how I would do this build with out my machine tools. I needed to bore out the shaft hole on the outer arm mount. Mill and bore bar, took off just what I needed for a nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) fit. The Rear Brake mounts needed a spacer, just like 911 brake calipers do, so the Lathe made me a perfect set of four. You could have gotten all this done with out machine tools. But as I am standing there fitting parts I wonder how I ever got this done with out them. More use than most other tools in my shop now. That has a small snag going over the shaft on a shock. Lets take a .0001 off and call it a day. i know I am a little (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) OK maybe a lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) Off to the shop for day 2, I would like to get the shell down on 4 wheels so I can make some measurements, and make sure things don't drag the ground, things fit under fenders, and well fenders actually line up with the centers of wheels. Just little details I forgot to check. |
Garland |
Oct 16 2016, 07:48 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Stephen,
Flying start, nice layout of where your at, and moving along well. Good luck on the 2017 Build. |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 10:34 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Thank you sir, thank you, hopefully we will both be at Okteenrfest this year with a 914, I know that is my plan.
But then I have a backup plan just to make sure I get there in a 914 with 6 cylinders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
914forme |
Oct 16 2016, 06:04 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
October 16th, 2016 Day 2
Well did not achieve all I wanted but I made great progress. Finished the other rear trailing arm. 911 rear parking brake is a pain with the hub, but I have it down now. I then had a squirrel moment and pulled a Centerline out of storage. Wow it actually would work. So now to the front struts, No Way Pal was my thought, and well it doesn't. But it is not far off. But this is where the buck stops. don't think you could fit a buck between the caliper and wheel. So after the squirrels ran away, I got back to it. Engine and trans back in for the 51st time, wish I could say it was the last time, but it is not. Installed the trailing arms Installed the rear tires and started working on getting the ride height set so I can figure out if I need to dry sump this thing. Here is how it sits as of tonight. |
Amenson |
Oct 16 2016, 08:43 PM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None |
This build is way too epically awesome for such tiny pictures. More resolution please.
Did he cut and weld in material to raise the spindle on Boge struts. Cheers, Scott |
914forme |
Oct 17 2016, 05:26 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Lets see if this does what you need. Two Birds theory.
More than likely an over simplification of the idea. I do not have a band saw or a lathe that would cut this either accurately or fit on my lathe bed. In reality the service price was a bargain for what I got. Once you calculate tooling costs, time, and if I screwed up. The rear arms where the same way, calculate the one time costs, well worth paying to have them all boxed, welded, and parts installed. Thank you for the measurements BTW, I will put them to good use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
914forme |
Oct 17 2016, 05:34 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
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white1975 |
Oct 17 2016, 05:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: 28-December 10 From: Milford ohio Member No.: 12,529 Region Association: None |
looks good you can come down and get mine ready too
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914forme |
Oct 17 2016, 05:51 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
looks good you can come down and get mine ready too Two 914s in front of you, but after that I would ready to help in anyway I possible can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
mbseto |
Oct 17 2016, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,257 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
Beautiful parts, this car is looking sweet.
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914forme |
Oct 17 2016, 06:51 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Thank you
Day 3 October 17th, 2016 Nothing done expect finding parts needed that I have misplaced (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Or to replace parts that do not work with the other systems installed. That is what happens when your building a custom car. Some thing just don't fit with out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) . I have also started a second project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I don't want to let out of the bag until I know I have it nailed down. But lets just say it will guarantee I make it to Okteenerfest with a 914 in 2017. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) I will start a build thread on that car also, I can't wait to reveal the car and the build. |
mepstein |
Oct 17 2016, 08:04 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,592 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thank you Day 3 October 17th, 2016 Nothing done expect finding parts needed that I have misplaced (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Or to replace parts that do not work with the other systems installed. That is what happens when your building a custom car. Some thing just don't fit with out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) . I have also started a second project. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I don't want to let out of the bag until I know I have it nailed down. But lets just say it will guarantee I make it to Okteenerfest with a 914 in 2017. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) I will start a build thread on that car also, I can't wait to reveal the car and the build. I think you revealed it to me when you asked about an item I had for sale. I didn't realize you had the build waiting in the wings. Congrats. |
914forme |
Oct 19 2016, 04:49 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Yes, I have a build in the wings. I am very excited about the build it has been a very long time coming. And can't wait to dig in to that 914, and bringing it back to life after a very long slumber,
Day 4 of build Oct 18th, 2016. Struck a deal for a set of seats, like I needed them, but I was really bored in a meeting, and well I could finish a 914 detail. Been talking to an engine builder outside of Columbus for my engine build for the other project. Looks like it will be a winter project for him also. That will also give me some time to research the shop and make sure it is a place I want to do the engine work. Really want to do it myself, but my wife has been on a kick lately of letting work on my project and outsourcing other items. She is a keeper, but somethings are so cool I hate giving other people the opportunity and the $$$. Ah well I should listen to her, she is wiser than my inner child (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) is when it comes to my time. So that project will startup at the first of the year. I need to start a build thread for that one and thank all the people who have traded me parts to get this going. I also traded some green backs for parts to make it the car I want to drive. My car nothing physical done yesterday, as I think I am getting sick, I crashed at 6pm last night. Forced myself to stay awake until 9:30 and was up at 2:30 this morning. Extra hour of sleep for me. At the office at 5 am, should get out of here early today and do some work I owe a few people. And maybe get a few things done on the 914 tonight. My new horizontal band saw landed yesterday so, I can cut some stock at square and at angles. Accurately , my Portland is great for detail cuts, but making a square cut was not at my skill level with that tool. I have a couple projects for the new saw tonight. Need to make a couple of spacers for the trans mount. A second tier for my wheel rack, and an engine cart for my EG and trans combo. As the engine will come and go back in more than like a few hundred more times. I would like to build an eying rotisserie also as it would make it a lot easier to fit the exhaust headers. Hopefully a couple items show up before the weekend so I can get the car down on all four wheels ,and get items measured and set. |
914forme |
Oct 20 2016, 07:50 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Day 5
Good Day Eh! October the 19th, 2016 if you are counting. I did two things 914 related. Paid Mike for some seats (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Cleaned out all the trash out of the shop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Oh three, packed up some rear tail lights, and forgot to weigh them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Spent the rest of the night on Honey Dos I started to lay out my new 914 front sway bar arms. I will snap some pictures as I proceed. My old mount was a NASCAR piece, for some reason them g'ol'boys don't seem to mind the weight of a solid steel arm. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) It was also a single sheer joint. I will make mine a double sheer in the RSR tradition. Bolt in a hole supporting a hemi joint. Pretty simple stuff. More productive day than I thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
914forme |
Oct 22 2016, 06:41 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Day number 8 October 22nd, 2016
Where has the time gone. Got up today had about 4 hours to get something done on my 914. So I unpacked my new small horizontal band saw. It cuts square so it is a keeper. I did a bit of cutting, which I can say is much better than doing it on my vertical band saw and the truing it up on my lathe. |
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