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Self Sustaining Electric 914, jwalters is back |
1jwalters |
Nov 16 2013, 08:09 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 15-November 13 From: Florida Member No.: 16,651 Region Association: None |
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/self-sus...c-car/x/5342378
My latest project. Recently I designed a new generation wind turbine. I am going to miniaturize my design and work it into the front trunk area of a teener. My goal is to drive coast to coast non-stop........ Ambitious? Yes! Doable? Yes! I will accept any help thrown my way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) By the way, it is great to be back here, I missed this place! |
rick 918-S |
Nov 16 2013, 08:13 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,680 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Back that is! Where you been?
Oh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
JeffBowlsby |
Nov 16 2013, 03:15 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,663 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
You will need to offer equity in your company to generate capital (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 16 2013, 04:08 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
TNSTAAFL.
The Cap'n |
PThompson509 |
Nov 16 2013, 05:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 9-August 05 From: Santa Cruz, CA Member No.: 4,564 Region Association: Northern California |
Interesting. Word of caution: do NOT use Electro Automotive - you will lose your money. Lots of people already have lost their money, don't be another.
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Mike Bellis |
Nov 16 2013, 06:00 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
Kind of cool but kind of like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spam.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) |
d914 |
Nov 16 2013, 07:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,333 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
Perpetual motion ?
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skeates |
Nov 17 2013, 12:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 218 Joined: 28-February 05 From: Sacramento, ca Member No.: 3,684 Region Association: Northern California |
Let us know how those pesky laws of thermodynamics treat you...
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Elliot Cannon |
Nov 17 2013, 01:07 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
If it works, how long before the oil companies make you an offer you can't refuse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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7TPorsh |
Nov 17 2013, 01:12 AM
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7T Porsh Group: Members Posts: 2,691 Joined: 27-March 06 From: Glendale Ca Member No.: 5,782 Region Association: Southern California |
If it works, how long before the oil companies make you an offer you can't refuse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) watch out...may end up like Rudolf Diesel... |
1jwalters |
Nov 17 2013, 06:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 15-November 13 From: Florida Member No.: 16,651 Region Association: None |
Hey jeff and rick and everybody else! yep ir has been awhile. i have been traveling all over the planet for the last few years.
where is dr evil? aaron cox still around? Scotty b? i must apologoze as i am on the road doing a tour of local machine shops and corporate machine shops promoting my wind engine. sending this from my smart phone. be back home on mo.day.chat with all you guys more then! |
Bulldog9 |
Nov 17 2013, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 21-August 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,283 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Man this brings me back..... When I was young and ambitious and considered myself inventive, I came up with a plan similar to this. A perpetually powered electric car. The problem was the need and ability to reliably generate and store more power than you are consuming. Given the needs for accelleration, grade increases, accessory/load demands, I figured that if you allowed for a 25% overhead (100KW generate, 75W motor) and had enough capacity you would be fine, but the math (according to my electrical engineer uncle).
The plan was to generate power two ways, 1 was regenerative through a wheel driven generator, second was solar power cells. The theory/idea was sound, the math diddnt hold up. Something about entropy, etc and that the ratio of consumption to generation wasnt right. I thought a 2-3 speed transmission to step up the ration on the generator would address this, but there was little available to make that happen. So, I decided to scrap the design and went instead for a system with: solar panels (roof & hood), a wheel generator (front wheels) and a small onboard gasoline powered generator (engine compartment) all 3 would dump power into the batteries, solar when the sun was out and independedent of all movement, the wheel generator when moving, and the gas generator for when demand outpaced the ability to generate or the battery levels dropped below 40%. I still liked the idea of a 2 speed transmission to double the speed of the generator relative to speed, the theory being generating twice the power and outpace consumption. This system worked out great on paper and the math worked too. The only problem was I was 13-14 years old and had no access to do anything other than old lawnmower parts, scavanged junkyard parts, and a 1960 VW beetle shell. But this was the 70's, I was 14 and of little means, so I just sent the idea to the General.... Along with my driverless highway idea. Of course real cars, motorcycles, girls, sports, college, family, Army all got in the way, and I gave up being an inventor, just inovating and improving what I have. I dont have any idea of the other project you did, but I'm intrigued! Will be watching this thread! Steve |
ClayPerrine |
Nov 17 2013, 07:21 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,820 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Kind of cool but kind of like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spam.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) Don't be so flippant about a 914-12. All you need is a VW W-12 motor. It is actually shorter than a 911 engine, and will bolt up to a Boxster transmission with no conversion parts. (Yes, I have considered it.....) |
bulitt |
Nov 17 2013, 07:37 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Kind of cool but kind of like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spam.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) I'm taking donations to build a 12 cylinder 914. Any takers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) Don't be so flippant about a 914-12. All you need is a VW W-12 motor. It is actually shorter than a 911 engine, and will bolt up to a Boxster transmission with no conversion parts. (Yes, I have considered it.....) Lot of work to get 270hp ? |
scotty b |
Nov 17 2013, 07:45 AM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Hey jeff and rick and everybody else! yep ir has been awhile. i have been traveling all over the planet for the last few years. where is dr evil? aaron cox still around? Scotty b? i must apologoze as i am on the road doing a tour of local machine shops and corporate machine shops promoting my wind engine. sending this from my smart phone. be back home on mo.day.chat with all you guys more then! Aaron quit, Evil is busy with his new high falootin 911 owning doctor friends, and they kicked me out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
jgara962 |
Nov 17 2013, 08:34 AM
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Yo, this is how I roll Group: Members Posts: 823 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Napa, CA Member No.: 3,879 Region Association: Northern California |
You're building one of these?
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JoeSharp |
Nov 17 2013, 09:22 AM
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In Irvine, Ca. May 15-18 Group: Members Posts: 3,947 Joined: 9-July 03 From: DeLand, Florida Member No.: 898 Region Association: South East States |
You missed the Tropical Ramble. Just winding down now. They are talking about a boat trip this afternoon to the Swamphouse on the St Johns river but that will be the end of the ramble. Making plans for next year.
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barefoot |
Nov 17 2013, 10:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,318 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/self-sus...c-car/x/5342378 My latest project. Recently I designed a new generation wind turbine. I am going to miniaturize my design and work it into the front trunk area of a teener. My goal is to drive coast to coast non-stop........ Ambitious? Yes! Doable? Yes! I will accept any help thrown my way! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) By the way, it is great to be back here, I missed this place! Feom your video, it seems the widn turbine is spinning with no load. next step, connect a generator to your turbine powerful enough to run your box fan, then get it started with house current, then switch over to generator power and see how long it will run. BTW, look at this link from sailing anarchy. http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php...han+the+wind%22 |
brant |
Nov 17 2013, 10:55 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,739 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bummer. The only person I've ever had to block. Ever
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Rand |
Nov 17 2013, 11:09 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
If you pitched this on Shark Tank they would rip you to pieces. You are asking for money before demonstrating anything based on reality. A little premature, don't you think? How much power it can generate? Spinning it with a fan doesn't prove anything. What was the point of that?
Hook it to a generator and show us the numbers, along with accurate numbers regarding how much is needed to power a car across the country. Attach your prototype directly to a prop on a boat and show us how fast you can go (since this is an application you suggested). Try a go kart prototype before asking for $100,000 to go straight to a car. Fool or scam artist? |
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