Self Sustaining Electric 914, jwalters is back Options

[messix]

same thing probably happened when it was proposed that a very small amount of gasoline or diesel could power a engine that could move several tons back in the day when it took a ton of coal and water to move the same.

good luck

[flippa]

same thing probably happened when it was proposed that a very small amount of gasoline or diesel could power a engine that could move several tons back in the day when it took a ton of coal and water to move the same.

good luck

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People made fun of Michael Faraday, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, John Hays Hammond, Jr., etc., etc., etc. Nothing but a bunch of crackpots. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Good luck with your project.

[ruby914]

Welcome back J.

I have a question, or two.
How much load will be on that turbine shaft to produce the power to charge the batteries? Have you tested the turbine with the same load?
How much drag will the turbine inlet add to the front of the car? Have you accounted for that?

Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[Rand]

People made fun of Michael Faraday, Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, John Hays Hammond, Jr., etc., etc., etc. Nothing but a bunch of crackpots.

You place this among those? But I would love nothing more than him joining those ranks.

[mskala]

I've been trying to stay out of this, but ...

People made fun of anybody doing something different, both nutjobs and
serious folks.

I knew our friend was in the former category when his video said "The first
attempt design works so incredibly efficiently I stopped developement (sic)"

Also there is a random guy in China who already built a car with a re-
generative turbine on the front (he probably already patented it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Bottom line is that if you can do the whole thing yourself, go ahead, it
will prove itself. If you can't do it all by yourself, you need a couple
pesky little things called physics and mathematics, used properly to get
somebody else's money. (Or dumb-ass celebrities without it). Only
the fraudsters and crackpots scream about their secret unique
math-free black box device and how they'll show the world.

Look at youtube and be surprised at how many idiots think they're
one step away from the perfect "magnet motor".

[boxsterfan]

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[Elliot Cannon]

This looks pretty cool. I'm ready to invest. Who do I send my life savings to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

[Rand]

This looks pretty cool. I'm ready to invest. Who do I send my life savings to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

The button on his indiegogo site which he posted here for all of us to contribute to.. Since I am neutral and do not wish to promote ill will (or will of any sort), I will support OP and re-share the link from which he asks donations: Just click the big red button upon your arrival at the following link...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/self-sus...ng-electric-car

Your support will help raise his bar above ZERO dollars.

[Rand]

Oh. And Scotty, I forgot to acknowledge my appreciation for your: " 't "
The difference between would, and wouldn't changes everything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Hi Troy)

[1jwalters]

It is a 20KVA genset that measures appx 10 inches long and 6 inches in width. It drives our radar system requirements using hydraulic fluid under pressure turning a motor......And that hydraulic motor is tiny, tiny, tiny compared to the genset///

Where does it get it's hydraulic pressure? A tiny little fraction of a watt windmill?

So when you guys start citing "laws of thermodynamics this, and laws of perpetual motion that" you are all way, way wrong.......on a total other planet even..

So the planet you are on is apparently not this one.

So you have either figured out how to drive a 914 down the road with a fraction of a watt of power, or you have figured out windturbine technology that multi-billion dollars worth of reasearch money has not. Good for you.

No, the hydraulic pump is located on the accessory section of the Honeywell ATF3-6 turbo-fan engine. It is about 6 inches tall and on a 4 inch bolt circle. This pump feeds the hydraulic motor which operates the 20KVA genset.

Many, many aircraft utilize this type of apparatus. It is known as as a C.S.D. or Constant Speed Device...

Hey man, just because you apparently are not aware of aviation technology......well.......why are you so dismissive of what you do not know? It is your opinion but man, your coming off as a colossal jerk brother...

[1jwalters]

Well just got great news - my invention has caught the eye of a National news affiliate! I am meeting with them tomorrow morning to do a story!

Yippie! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Just apply yourselves guys - just because a multi-million dollar conglomerate has not thought of it yet does not signify anything.........

People are always coming up with new ideas, processes, products, ..............again just because a company with all the money in the world at its disposal does not mean they already thought of it and then subsequently dismissed it!

I have seen some truly neat stuff people have done with respect to their Teeners here - apply what you have done to another segment of the market place - it just may work!

PEACE (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[1jwalters]

This looks pretty cool. I'm ready to invest. Who do I send my life savings to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

The button on his indiegogo site which he posted here for all of us to contribute to.. Since I am neutral and do not wish to promote ill will (or will of any sort), I will support OP and re-share the link from which he asks donations: Just click the big red button upon your arrival at the following link...

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/self-sus...ng-electric-car

Your support will help raise his bar above ZERO dollars.

It is more about exposure Rand - not the dollars. I am still going to do the project with outside funding or not, it will just take a bit longer - maybe not it really depends on a multitude of things. Obviously in some past life I have pissed you off and you intend to make good on your retribution.........a word of caution Rand

I did not ask anything from anybody on here...not one thing. What I included was a link to what I am doing project wise.


So let me make this fact clear right here and now: I am not "asking" anything from anybody. I am only sharing my project with a Porsche 914 enthusiast crowd.

[1jwalters]

This looks pretty cool. I'm ready to invest. Who do I send my life savings to? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

It costs more than 10 cents to do the contribution itself........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

[1jwalters]

I've been trying to stay out of this, but ...

People made fun of anybody doing something different, both nutjobs and
serious folks.

I knew our friend was in the former category when his video said "The first
attempt design works so incredibly efficiently I stopped developement (sic)"

Also there is a random guy in China who already built a car with a re-
generative turbine on the front (he probably already patented it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Bottom line is that if you can do the whole thing yourself, go ahead, it
will prove itself. If you can't do it all by yourself, you need a couple
pesky little things called physics and mathematics, used properly to get
somebody else's money. (Or dumb-ass celebrities without it). Only
the fraudsters and crackpots scream about their secret unique
math-free black box device and how they'll show the world.

Look at youtube and be surprised at how many idiots think they're
one step away from the perfect "magnet motor".

My design works and it works "right out of the box." Is it wrong for a person who has the experience and training that I possess to be able to design a "thing" so well that it works first time out? Seriously?

wow

[1jwalters]

same thing probably happened when it was proposed that a very small amount of gasoline or diesel could power a engine that could move several tons back in the day when it took a ton of coal and water to move the same.

good luck

Thanks bro! All I am really doing is bringing the possibility of the everyday person to access wind power. There is not one single solitary national conglomerate that offers true access to free wind energy on the planet....

I will be providing plans, prints, and construction call-outs. this way a person could actually build their own in their own shop...be about 6 months till they are ready, but it could be sooner.

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[stugray]

Hey man, just because you apparently are not aware of aviation technology......

Ummm hate to pull this card , but you dealt it, i am an aerospace engineer (and I slept at a holiday inn express last night) that turbofan engine is probably capable of delivering over 100 HP of hydraulic power to the genset. I fail to see how that is even relevant.

[1jwalters]

Welcome back J.

I have a question, or two.
How much load will be on that turbine shaft to produce the power to charge the batteries? Have you tested the turbine with the same load?
How much drag will the turbine inlet add to the front of the car? Have you accounted for that?

Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

Hi Ruby,

The load on the shaft is quite low, only torsional loads are being applied. The turbine for the vehicle install will be engineered shortly. Basically it will be a "scaled" down version of my current prototype with some enhancements, but minor ones at that.

The overall drag effect will be zero, this is based on the airflow properties which I have engineered into the overall design. Airflow management is the quintessential aspect of aircraft design: air in; air through; air exit; and air surrounding the object in question. So in this respect there is not going to be a problem with any associated rise in drag.

however it does impart a need to remain a respective amount of distance from the vehicle directly in front of the car. Hence why I will pay for the various state's Highway patrol for an escort. The other very real factor is having the escort will allow a quick exit and detour around problem areas such a wrecks, construction, etc.

[1jwalters]

Hey man, just because you apparently are not aware of aviation technology......

Ummm hate to pull this card , but you dealt it, i am an aerospace engineer (and I slept at a holiday inn express last night) that turbofan engine is probably capable of delivering over 100 HP of hydraulic power to the genset. I fail to see how that is even relevant.

Well, hate to tell you Mr. aerospace engineer, but the accessory pad on the engine in question is rated for 110 inch pounds of torque. -OR- 9.16 foot pounds of torque.

Again, Mr. engineer, you are talking to a person who has maintained, modified, and flown in this aircraft for almost a decade...........just so you know, maybe I have not made this fact glaringly obvious before..

Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[69telecaster]

Fluff and bragging...talk, talk, talk.
Let's see it work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

cm

[Mikey914]

I just though of something.
Say this thing works.

But as a practical application -
You could have no other cars in front of you ( now when a car cuts you off it would literally cut you off), but passing a Semi would disrupt your airflow also.

This would definately affect the driavability of the vehicle.