HELP!! broke chopsticks in combustion chamber, anyone for chinese? Options

[IronHillRestorations]

QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Dec 31 2004, 06:40 PM)

Fire that muther up. Drive it at 5500 shifts around the block should do it. I think it would grind up burn and spit out plastic or wood without dammage within seckonds. I mean it's just a thin strip of plastic what could that do to a combustion chamber.

Yea...that's the ticket....

Don't know you DJsRepS, but you've got to be joking right? If not that's a contender for the bad advice of the year! You might break it in enough pieces to get it out the exhaust valve, and maybe not! You could bend a valve, break a piston, all kinds of BAD STUFF! Injection moulded plastic isn't very compressable. Are you trying to sell him an engine????

You made a mistake, don't make it worse. You either fish the thing out with a piece of tape on some stainless tie wire, or one of the other methods suggested here; or you drop the engine and take the head off.

[tracks914]

QUOTE (kwales @ Jan 3 2005, 06:29 PM)

I think he needs to look in the yellow pages for "Guys that Build Ships In a Bottle"

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or better yet, guys that dismantle ships from a bottle.

[Series9]

QUOTE (9146986 @ Jan 3 2005, 07:35 PM)

QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Dec 31 2004, 06:40 PM) Fire that muther up. Drive it at 5500 shifts around the block should do it. I think it would grind up burn and spit out plastic or wood without dammage within seckonds. I mean it's just a thin strip of plastic what could that do to a combustion chamber. Yea...that's the ticket.... Don't know you DJsRepS, but you've got to be joking right? If not that's a contender for the bad advice of the year! You might break it in enough pieces to get it out the exhaust valve, and maybe not! You could bend a valve, break a piston, all kinds of BAD STUFF! Injection moulded plastic isn't very compressable. Are you trying to sell him an engine???? You made a mistake, don't make it worse. You either fish the thing out with a piece of tape on some stainless tie wire, or one of the other methods suggested here; or you drop the engine and take the head off.

I totally agree. If you start that engine, you're likely going to hurt it very badly. Either get the chop stick out or remove the head.

[Maltese Falcon]

best / quickest solution is Tracks914. A cool tool would be sumtin like a colonoscopy probe, about 9mm in dia. w/ camera/ light and various attachments for grabbing !
Know any GI doctors (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) ?

[tracks914]

The doctors I know don't hang in the 914 crowd.
They're too rich for that, they drive new 911's.

[mharrison]

Maybe a gynecologist could get it !!!

Think about this. Get another chopstick, see if it floats in water. IF it floats, fill the cylinder with water....I know, I know, relax it's TEMPORARY...float the chopstick to the top, snag it and pull it out. Syphon the water out. Change the oil, run it, change the oil again. No harm done....

If you don't like the water, test other fluids that you would be more comfortable with and see if the chopstick floats....

Hey, if it doesn't work, you're planning to pull the head anyway.....

[newdeal2]

Turn the car upside down and shake it!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Carl]

QUOTE (mharrison @ Jan 3 2005, 07:56 PM)

Maybe a gynecologist could get it !!! Think about this. Get another chopstick, see if it floats in water. IF it floats, fill the cylinder with water....I know, I know, relax it's TEMPORARY...float the chopstick to the top, snag it and pull it out. Syphon the water out. Change the oil, run it, change the oil again. No harm done.... If you don't like the water, test other fluids that you would be more comfortable with and see if the chopstick floats.... Hey, if it doesn't work, you're planning to pull the head anyway.....

Clever idea, Mike.

I'm not familiar with TIV engines so can the valve spring on the uppermost valve in the cylinder be removed so that the valve can be (carefully) lowered further into the cylinder? With a larger opening, many of the other ideas mentioned here would be possible. Retrieval with a claw, float it out, vacuum it out, flypaper on a stick, etc.

[SGB]

the engine is in the car, cylinder sideways.... The chopstick has to be down at the bottom. Could you bend a springy wire like a Y with the bottom bent 90 degrees, so you could reach the low side of the cylinder with the upper prongs of the Y hopefully on each side of the stick, then rotate the handle end so that the stick is brought up between the two prongs.... Could be that once it is flipped uo, pulling it back out will cause the stick to get pinched between the wires too.....
good luck, whatever you do.

[bryanthompson]

I can't believe you haven't gotten it out yet! Are you *sure* it's actually in there? I remember one time I couldn't find my wallet and I wondered around the house for an hour looking… only to find out it was in my pocket the whole time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/slap.gif)

[bperry]

What about using compressed air pushed in from the exhaust?
Make sure the intake valve is closed, open the exhause valve
then attach your air hose to the exhaust and increase pressure
as needed until it blows out the spark plug hole.
Sealing your air hose to the exhaust will be easier if you have
header stub tubes.
I'd think that a few quick blasts of air might just do the trick.

--- bill

[Trekkor]

It's pushing four days now. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

What did you do "O.G."?

My guess is that you tore it down. ( not what I'd have done ) Please tell me you didn't.

If you didn't,( please ) I'd say you found some way to vacuum it out of there.

Give it up, we're waiting. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/poke.gif)

KT

[scooter311]

that poky-smiley made me laugh a chicken mcnugget out my nose. And I haven't eaten a mcnugget in, like 3 days


I wonder what happened also? I hope he was able to do it without an engine drop, but if he did, it would be the best time for cleaning things up while it was out (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

[rick 918-S]

QUOTE (scooter311 @ Jan 4 2005, 12:12 PM)

that poky-smiley made me laugh a chicken mcnugget out my nose. And I haven't eaten a mcnugget in, like 3 days

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[tracks914]

Me thinks he might have tried the "start the engine trick"....burned the engine and doesn't want to talk about it.
But I hope not (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

[TheCabinetmaker]

Doug, I hope you are wrong. That would suck!!!!!

[d7n7master]

I have a wood magnet right next to my left handed skyhook that I could let you borrow... or you could pull the head.

[swood]

Next to the gynocological method, I'd suggest the following. Similar to the filling the cylinder with water (why would anyone do that on purpose (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) ) put the motor on a turnable stand, fill the cylinder with oil which would suspend the piece of plastic, then turn the engine on the stand to pour it back out of the plug hole. This should work well if the piece is not jammed in between the p&c.


I've done alot of things that I would never post on this board for fear of major imbarrasment (ie - motor together with tin...hmmm wheres that cht under that hole in the tin...) (That was a freebie)

[mr_machines]

shop vac with home-made quarter-inch OD soft copper tubing as the 'suction nozzle'. easily bendable to 'fit the job', and get around obstacles, but stiff enough. you'll have to hold it in place in the 'suction end' of the bigger vac tube, to get it to act as a 'magnet' sort of....shop vac will ;-) need to be running :-) of course

now might be a good time to sell me your engine DIRT cheap, too, though :-) 'cause I need a 2.0...if that's what it is....

good luck (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/givemebeer.gif)

[wheelo]

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Someone's too busy, doing tear-down, to give-up the final chapter! I have some "Bent" chopsticks, that bamboo is some tough-stuff, from doing the same exact "Trick".That's what you get for using plastic ones ! Mucho Brittle.

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