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> Saw this 1975 914 FS near my house today
Cuda911
post Aug 5 2014, 02:05 PM
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Today as I was driving around town I saw a black 1975 914 for sale on a small used car lot.

The dealer has no idea what he has. He thought it was a 1971 911!!!

He said that it is owned by the Weseloh family. Weseloh owns a large Chevy delarship here, and I believe some other dealerships as well.

He says he is selling it on consignment for Weseloh, and Weseloh wants 22K.

(Obviously, he is dreaming. I think it's a 5-6K car, maybe, tops).

I checked the car out... pretty bad, but someone here may find it of interest. I didn't start the car, but apparently it runs.

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post Aug 5 2014, 02:06 PM
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post Aug 5 2014, 05:48 PM
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22k? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) the dealer is going to get very tired of washing it for eternity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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post Aug 5 2014, 07:15 PM
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$3k max
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post Aug 5 2014, 07:21 PM
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I had a good conversation with the dealer, showed him all the key items regarding the car, told him what year and model it is, showed him how to take the targa off (he didn't even know the top came off), etc. Hah, wait 'til he needs to fill it up and can't find the fuel filler!

I also told him that there was absolutely zero chance the car would sell for 22k or anywhere near that.

He was just spouting the number given to him by the seller.

Here's some obvious issues:

- I have no idea what motor is in it.
- The carb conversion looks to be poorly done.
-Paint is OK at best
- Interior recover is OK at best
- Dash has one of those plastic covers, so I assume is cracked beneath
- Front turn signal lenses have been replaced with cheap aftermarket
- Battery in trunk
- Home-fabricated rocker panels
- Targa top sanded smooth and painted, and done poorly
- I found a bunch of receipts in the glove box for rust repair in 1995. Hard to tell what may have been painted over or otherwise covered up.
-Note the door pulls. Second 914 I have seen this week with kitchen drawer pulls. When did that mod become popular?

This car will be a nightmare for most buyers, but maybe someone who is looking to play around with it might want it for the right price, or for misc parts.

Curious, what do you guys think it's worth? We have a vote for 3k from Mepstein. I see 600 to 800 for the wheels. Blaupunkt radio is worth maybe $100. Tail lenses - $100. Rhody, you seem to be the King of Salvage... what else on this car?
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post Aug 5 2014, 08:00 PM
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$400 for the wheels if they're real, $200 if repros,
less than $3k to someone who knows these cars.
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post Aug 5 2014, 08:31 PM
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Yeah, I agree. Well, I'll keep an eye on the car, I go by there at least a few times a week.

Dang, when I first saw the car as I was driving past, I was hoping to score a good find. I've never seen a 914 in the used car lots around here (there's a cluster of about 10 or 15 of them, and I'm always looking to see what they have).

Of course, any thoughts of a good score evaporated within the first six seconds of looking at the car. When I asked the dealer how much and he said 22, I'm pretty sure that I literally laughed out loud.
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post Aug 5 2014, 09:41 PM
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rust free you say ?
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5K IF it's solid. Otherwise I'll second Mark 3K pending pics disassembled, on a lift and sandblasted
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post Aug 6 2014, 01:41 PM
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The wheels are repops.
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post Aug 6 2014, 02:10 PM
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^^^ Are they? What tipped you off to that, so I can be aware in the future?
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post Aug 6 2014, 03:21 PM
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I think the seller meant $2,200!!
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post Aug 6 2014, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Cuda911 @ Aug 6 2014, 01:10 PM) *

^^^ Are they? What tipped you off to that, so I can be aware in the future?


Center cap says American eagle or something similar.
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post Aug 6 2014, 03:36 PM
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^^^ Yeah, I know the caps are not correct, but any center cap can be put on, even if they are real Fuchs.

"I think the seller meant $2,200!!"

You know, it's very possible that the guy consigning the car told the place "22" and the dealer assumed he meant 22K, when he actually meant 22 hundred. I may stop in again and ask.
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post Aug 6 2014, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(Cuda911 @ Aug 6 2014, 01:10 PM) *

^^^ Are they? What tipped you off to that, so I can be aware in the future?


Find a photo of real 2.0L Fuchs and compare...the detail differences jump off the page, very different quality and look.
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post Aug 6 2014, 06:57 PM
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My .02 on it......
#1-SSI ht xchngrz....1.7/1.8
#2-exhaust either newer or repainted
#3-Cheapo rear shocks..
#4-new/replaced carpet..
#5-the sail vinyl is missing...
#6-a Cali car would have the 'bumperett's.....
Sooooo all n all...points to a once attempted resto....

some observations though..
the tranny is wayyyy to clean..
possible rebuild..(check for oil under car)..
same with the motor...heads are really clean..
I guess some doc's on stuff would be grand...
And get it up in the air....
get the VIN off the car and the engine #...

Is all of the injection stuff still avail??
AND drive it for Giggles!!
Have fun...my take would be 4 to 5 G......
yeah would need to see it in person...
but quite a bit has been done to it..
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post Aug 7 2014, 12:41 AM
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914runnow: Just to be clear, I have zero intention of buying this car. Just figured some here would find the listing of interest, to see what's on the market.

Jeff, you are correct. I made this image with side-by side pictures. Quite a few detail differences once they are seen right next to each other (bottom image is a wheel from the car in this thread):


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post Aug 7 2014, 05:50 PM
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Here's the VIN tag:
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post Aug 7 2014, 06:12 PM
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We worked on that roach in a small area for the owner of Weseloh some time ago. When I went to back it out of the wash rack the trans linkage crapped it's biscuits then got towed to a local mechanic where it sat for another coon's age as the owner swore the trans was new. He bought it sight unseen from the Northern Bay area (Frisco) for a stupid amount of money like 15k as when I went to the local dealer when they were here in town to pick it up. I thought it was pretty trick too until I got up close to it and saw what Cuda saw lol. It also had a "frenched" custom mini truck
antenna in the left fender we fixed for him, also installed a correct antenna and dash cap for him. RUN !!!! It's that bad.
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post Aug 7 2014, 11:27 PM
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There is a blue 914-6 that I'm seeing around here in San Clemente. 914s are pretty rare to see, even here in the OC. I see one or two about once a week. I always get a little excited when I see one on the road.
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post Aug 8 2014, 02:02 PM
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There is a blue 914-6 that I'm seeing around here in San Clemente. 914s are pretty rare to see, even here in the OC. I see one or two about once a week. I always get a little excited when I see one on the road.


That would be me. I drive to San Clemente every morning for work.
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