Could this be Queenies car...?, in SLO town Options

[Gustl]

... the brakes as well (already changed to disc brakes on the rear and 5 hole hubs).

maybe I misunderstand your sentence, but all 914 had 4 disk breaks from the factory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

[SirAndy]

I was under the impression that the TuV was pretty picky with imported cars! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

They are but from what i can tell the car isn't registered yet in Germany.

That "creative" fuel pump arrangement certainly won't fly with the TÜV when the time comes to get the car registered.
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[Mike Bellis]

Here are the pictures I took today:

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I kind of dig the custom fuel pump setup. You can watch it suck (fuel).

[bigkensteele]

I was under the impression that the TuV was pretty picky with imported cars! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

They are but from what i can tell the car isn't registered yet in Germany.

That "creative" fuel pump arrangement certainly won't fly with the TÜV when the time comes to get the car registered.
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Just curious, Andy... Do you have both German and English keyboards, or do you key the ascii equivalent for German characters such as the umlaut above?

[SirAndy]

Just curious, Andy... Do you have both German and English keyboards, or do you key the ascii equivalent for German characters such as the umlaut above?

I have a US keyboard. I use the ALT + Numeric Key Pad trick to get my umlauts ...

http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codealt.html
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[tutur]

@ Gustl: thank you very much for this information - I thought that the original 914 had drum brakes at the rear axle.

@ SirAndy and BigKenSteele: as mentioned before - the fuel pump is broken and will be replaced today or tomorrow. Or do you refer to anything else? If so, please give me a hint!


FYI: the car is already registered with German papers and historic number plate (H-Kennzeichen), latest TÜV certification was in April this year. But the seller didn't tell me whether he has imported the car or not. Interesting point, I will ask this question!


So, what is your overall impression of this car?
Is it common to change the 914 hubs to 912 hubs (or are these 914/6 hubs???) and what is the benefit? A wider range of rims?
And what is the relatively new and shiny aluminium system close to the battery?

Another maybe simple question: are the grey carpets and the seat covers original??? Never saw that on any pictures before ...


Rainer

[Dave_Darling]

The 76 is not my favorite year. It's got the lousy late-style exhaust and a smog pump on it. In CA, it is the only 914 that has to pass biannual smog inspections.

There are rust bubbles under the paint in several areas, which means the rust is coming from underneath and when you try to fix it you will find more. In addition, the paint on several panels doesn't really match.

There are no photos of the "hell hole" and related areas, so it is difficult to say how bad the structure of the car might be.

I am not impressed, and would not pay much for the car. Then again, I am prejudiced against the later cars.

The seats and carpet are not original materials, as far as I can determine. A good resource for that is on Jeff Bowlsby's website: http://bowlsby.net/914/Classic/PaintFabrics.htm (Look around the rest of it for a while, lots of interesting stuff there!!)

--DD

[tutur]

Can you please explain were the "hell holes" are?

Or can I find a List with advices for someone who wants to buy a '14 in this forum?

[Dave_Darling]

The "hell hole" is in front of the battery, right-front corner of the engine bay. Tends to rust--a lot! Here's a thread showing one man's repair process for the whole area: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=16748

Oh, forgot earlier: It's fairly common to replace the front struts with 911 parts. That allows you to use five-lug 911 wheels, which look cool and have a whole lot of different styles to choose from. Wheels with the 4x130mm pattern are far fewer, especially in 914-freindly offsets. Most are made for old Bugs, and put the wheels too far out in the fenders.

In most cases, you also get bigger brakes to go along with your five-log wheels. They handle heat a lot better than the stock solid rotor 914-4 brakes.

The 914-6 used (a version of) early 911 struts, in fact.

--DD

[SirAndy]

The "hell hole" is in front of the battery, right-front corner of the engine bay. Tends to rust--a lot!

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The battery sits on a metal tray. That tray is welded to the back of the longitudinal frame which is part of the backbone of your car.
Acid drips down from the battery tray and eats through the metal there and eventually makes its way to the bottom of the frame rail.

As you can see in the thread that Dave linked above, even if it looks somewhat OK from the outside, the actual rust cancer can be substantial and compromises the structural integrity of the car.

A careful inspection includes a pointy screwdriver and a lot of poking in at least 3 areas:

- The top of the frame rail under the battery tray at the lowest point right near the firewall.

- The bottom of the frame rail. You usually have to remove the outer rocker covers to get a good look. If you can't get them off, try from underneath the car.

- The floorboard right behind the passenger seat. Move the seat all the way forward, lift the carpet and start poking.
CAUTION: The factory used tar sound deadening material on the floors and they are painted over. Most of the time it will visually look OK because of that. You really need to poke around for rust since the tar tends to hold the rusty pieces together and the paint on the tar hides it well.

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[bigkensteele]

My advice would be to do a LOT of research here before buying any 914, especially this one. I don't have a feel for the values in Germany, but this car seems to be way over-priced. You would be better off buying a nice driver-quality car in the US and have it shipped over.

The search button above is your friend here.

[tutur]

Hey there!

I already had a look especially all around the platform for the battery:

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And it seems to me not too serious. All other tips are very helpful, thank you very much!

I will take the time and have a look through all of your links at the weekend ... hopefully ... weather prediction says that I should spent my time in the park or at the river Elbe instead of surfing through the internet ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Anyway: if the car runs again I will take the opportunity to do a test drive. I will definitively not buy this particular 914, but I'd like to get a feeling of this is the right car for me or not.


By the way: is there kind of a marketplace for cars in this forum? Couldn't find one ...

Or dou you have other good sources for rust free 914?

Rainer

[Gustl]

By the way: is there kind of a marketplace for cars in this forum? Couldn't find one ...

it's called the Classified Forum:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showforum=25

[tutur]

Thanks!

[tutur]

@ Gustl: Wolfgang, Du bist doch auch in anderen 914 Foren unterwegs. Welches kannst Du empfehlen (http://www.porsche-914.com/)? Und hast Du eine gute Quelle für technisch gute Fahrzeuge an der Hand?

Rainer

[Porschef]

Guten Morgen Rainer,

I'd be concerned with the GRP mat that is on the firewall. The German spelling would be "Fugazi".

I took four years of German in high school and barely remember any of it. Air Kuhlt might be proper. I speak a lot more Spanish these days...

Joe

[tutur]

Thank you for your replay.

What do you you excatly mean by "GRP" ?
Glas fibre reinforced plastic?

[Gustl]

@ Gustl: Wolfgang, Du bist doch auch in anderen 914 Foren unterwegs. Welches kannst Du empfehlen (http://www.porsche-914.com/)?

yepp - das ist wohl das umgänglichste deutschsprachige Forum
wie ich gerade gesehen habe, bist Du bereits online (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Und hast Du eine gute Quelle für technisch gute Fahrzeuge an der Hand?

na ja, in Österreich wäre der Reinhard Funke: http://www.funke.at.tt/
aber generell fragst Du besser im Sector, da kommen Antworten, die nicht so weit entfernt sind ...

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[Porschef]

Thank you for your replay.

What do you you excatly mean by "GRP" ?
Glas fibre reinforced plastic?

Yes, here we tend to just call it fiberglass.

[tutur]

@ Gustl: danke :-)


@ Porschef: Well, "fibreglass" is also known in German language, but technically this isn't correct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... sorry, I'm working th in the aircraft industry, and fibre reinforced plastic are my daily business ...



Anyway: even if I love the viper green colour of the Porsche 914, this will never be my car. The car is compared to other too expensive and there is still a lot of work to do.

I like to have a car which is technically in good or perfect condition without rust, and I will accept an interior and/or paint which needs to be refurbished.


So if anybody can give me a hint where to find a reliable dealer I will focus on an imported car.

One final question: an someone explain the difference between the US model and the Japan models?


Rainer