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> I need new shocks, Koni or Bilsteins?
Jeroen
post Feb 26 2003, 07:13 PM
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I'll be shopping for a new set of 911 front struts soon, so I'd like to decide on what brand of shocks to use...

I'm still undecided. It'll be either yellow Koni's or Bilstein sports

I currently have the B-sports on my '87 carrera and I like them
But I've also driven Koni equiped cars, and couldn't really find much difference between them

Pro on the Bilsteins are the 'upside down' design and they won't be damaged when the suspension bottoms out.

On the other side, I think the adjustability of the Yellow Koni's would be nice feature too...

Whadda ya think???

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post Feb 26 2003, 08:02 PM
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Yours is a track car, yes?

If so the adjustability of the Konis is gonna come in real handy at some point. Of course, having custom-valved shocks would be even better... In the US, Truechoice (I think it is) will rebuild Konis. I think that Bilstein USA will also. And either one will let you spec the valving...

Most of us (who think we have track cars but really have street cars we drive on the track) go with the Koni adjustables.

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post Feb 26 2003, 08:03 PM
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Koni is a good thang.....
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post Feb 26 2003, 08:07 PM
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Koni's Jeroen.

They really come alive with the roller bearing suspension. You can actually feel the difference between 1/2 a turn and a full turn when adjusting.


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post Feb 26 2003, 08:25 PM
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Thanks... Koni's it'll be then (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Feb 26 2003, 11:23 PM
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Come on Dude..Koni's are made in Holland, which is the Netherlands, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I really like my Koni Sports. I am no Schumacher, but at the autocross practice I went to they were great.
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post Feb 26 2003, 11:33 PM
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I would reccommend the koni sports also!!
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post Feb 27 2003, 05:46 AM
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Yep, Koni is from the Netherlands. Actually, the factory is only 10 or 15 miles from my home

Most of the other big names in specialty shox are from the Netherlands too (JRZ, Intrax, Profex). They all worked for Koni and started a business for them selves

Funny to see so little feedback on the Bilsteins though... The 911 crowd always seems to shout for Bisteins first

Thanks for the input all

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post Feb 27 2003, 09:20 AM
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I have Bilsteins and I love them! :sweet:

Great for a street car and (mild) AX but they are not adjustable, except for the perches. They are stiff and have a great feel for the road, plus I got a good deal on them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If I was racing my teen I would probably go with the Koni's, just to get every advantage I could get.
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post Feb 27 2003, 11:32 AM
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Yup! If you were building a street car, I would suggest the Bilsteins. They have a really very good tradeoff between handling and comfort. They seem to be about halfway in ride quality between the stock Boges and the hard Konis (set on full stiff), but only give up a little handling to the Konis.

But for a sort-of-race-car, the adjustability of the Konis wins hands-down.

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post Feb 27 2003, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Jeroen @ Feb 27 2003, 03:46 AM)
Yep, Koni is from the Netherlands. Actually, the factory is only 10 or 15 miles from my home

Most of the other big names in specialty shox are from the Netherlands too (JRZ, Intrax, Profex). They all worked for Koni and started a business for them selves

Funny to see so little feedback on the Bilsteins though... The 911 crowd always seems to shout for Bisteins first

Thanks for the input all

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Jeroen

I learned something new - I thought Koni was a German company.

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post Jun 2 2003, 09:50 AM
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I gotta choose.

I can pick up a set of 4 Koni Yellow Sports for about 600, plus shipping.

The Bilsteins (with insert for my Boge struts) will cost about 465, including shipping. Both new.

Recommendations? Car will be used for spirited street driving, and eventually the occasional autox.

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post Jun 2 2003, 10:03 AM
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How old are you ??

I swear..age makes the decision. Young guy's like Chris Reale can put up with Bilsteins on the street. I'm getting old... I want both worlds.. A nice cushy car while driving around town and bump jumping bouncing race car when I want it. Koni's.

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post Jun 2 2003, 10:17 AM
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I'm just enough younger than you, that I can call you old... ;-)

The Bilsteins will be that harsh? Hmm... something to think about.

Anyways - if anyone wants a line on a full set of Bilsteins for 465, shipped - go to Performance Motor Cars. I've had good luck ordering parts from them.

Thanks, Brad.

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post Jun 2 2003, 10:24 AM
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What's your Koni source?
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post Jun 2 2003, 10:25 AM
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Jason @ Paragon, of course. He's always first on my suspension parts shopping list. Got me a good deal on fronts for the 911.

The Koni's are Yellow Sport adjustables.

Koni Sport Adjustables for 914/6
Front 8641-1077 Sport
Rear 8241-1050 Sport


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post Jun 2 2003, 10:27 AM
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I figured....
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post Jun 2 2003, 10:43 AM
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Why not Bilstein heavy-duty (the normal Bilstein not the sport)? Less pain, more filling (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yeah, I'm old.

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post Jun 2 2003, 10:55 AM
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Why not Bilstein heavy-duty (the normal Bilstein not the sport)? Less pain, more filling  


Is there much difference, performance-wise? PMC carries both for the same price.

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post Jun 2 2003, 11:19 AM
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OK...I'm old but here is my take on this. Bilsteins are fine but not adjustable. You pick a set strut rating and you have to live with it. Koni Sports are adjustable. Set them to softer for more bumpy surfaces and firmer for smoother ones. It's all about adjustability.
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