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> 914-Flat-8, Porsche 914 with a 908 3li engine
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post Feb 8 2005, 07:47 PM
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First off !!!!See it will fit!!!

Secondly, I think from what I can see the cam towers are driven from the middle of the engine by a gear, this gear seem to be attached to a maller drive shaft that is connected to the cams....

I could not find the 907 link....you linked to the 914gt page

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post Feb 8 2005, 07:55 PM
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See the gears in the middle of the bank

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post Feb 8 2005, 08:02 PM
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post Feb 8 2005, 08:05 PM
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Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers !

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post Feb 8 2005, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (michel richard @ Feb 8 2005, 09:05 PM)
Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers !

Michel

It still fits!!!
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post Feb 8 2005, 08:40 PM
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Cool, If the rear trunk panel is moved back for the longer 8 cylinder motor, then the transaxle is also moved back! I think.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)

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post Feb 8 2005, 10:27 PM
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Yeah Quilmes, you rock! You're a great addition to the group. You've been posting some great photos and great information.

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post Feb 9 2005, 07:18 AM
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Been thinking about this one a little more.

Does anybody know how wide the 8 cyl engine is ? with its double overhead cams and all.

It may be that with the double overhead cams it's a little wider than the regular 6 cyl, and that it may not fit between the ears of the inner rear suspension mounts, which means the engine may have to be inserted/extracted from above, which could explain the change in the configuration of the engine compartment / trunk area.

All speculation, of course, but I would be curious to know the width of the engine.

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post Feb 9 2005, 11:11 AM
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Guys, thanks for the input... but please take a closer look at the 908 engine....

The cam gears on the 917 engine are in the middle, that is obvious. But what is also obvious is the gap allowing those gears to be between the cylinders and the cam covers also reviel a raised section for gears.

Now look at the 907 engine, no gap is obvious... the intake stacks are evenly spaced, and very close to eachother. Nothing at the ends of the motor either except what looks like oil lines.

It isn't chain driven because the top cam covers and the bottom cam covers don't have a bridge covering between the two.

Michel, i don't think the 908 engine is all that much wider than the 911 engine. Even if it was, the 911 engine still has about an inch on either side in the 914 engine bay. I too would like to know the dimensions of those engines.
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (michel richard @ Feb 8 2005, 06:05 PM)
Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers !

Michel

Here are some technical drawings of the 914-8 from Porsche. I got these from the Grosse VW-Porsche Buch from Michael von Klodt. Great book !!!
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I looked over the drawing and the dimension of the wheel base from the 914 and 914-8 are the same 2450.5mm, the trans does sit back more and the half shafts operate at a angle like the V8 conversions.
I guess one of us will just have to go out there and do a super underneath photo shoot of the engine and from all angles. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)

Porsche 914-103 the rear trunk and engine cover seem to be one, I do not know if this was change later on for the 914-8???

Also some wood and clay pre-914 models included.


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post Feb 9 2005, 11:41 AM
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Tech drawing 914-8 side view:
notice on the top view from the before picture, the gear shaft placed infront of the pass seat.


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post Feb 9 2005, 11:42 AM
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:43 AM
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:44 AM
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:44 AM
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Here are some technical drawings of the 914-8 from Porsche. I got these from the Grosse VW-Porsche Buch from Michael von Klodt. Great book !!!
( I can hear the phone ringing from Germany Wavt in die Hell are you duuing chairing my drawings wit die 914club)  


Could you convince him to do an English version of this Book. That would be awesome. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:45 AM
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:49 AM
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post Feb 9 2005, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (BigD9146gt @ Feb 9 2005, 09:11 AM)
Guys, thanks for the input... but please take a closer look at the 908 engine....

The cam gears on the 917 engine are in the middle, that is obvious. But what is also obvious is the gap allowing those gears to be between the cylinders and the cam covers also reviel a raised section for gears.

Now look at the 907 engine, no gap is obvious... the intake stacks are evenly spaced, and very close to eachother. Nothing at the ends of the motor either except what looks like oil lines.

It isn't chain driven because the top cam covers and the bottom cam covers don't have a bridge covering between the two.

So is it run with a bevel gear system like the older 4-cams?
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