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| AndyB |
 Feb 27 2015, 12:39 PM
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The Governor is watching me  Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States  |
So I am finally doing the Subaru drive train conversion. I picked up my donor car from a salvage auction for $200.00. Yes the entire car and yes it does drive and run. With that being said I am still looking to those more knowledgable in the Subaru arena. The car is a 2002 Impreza Outback Sport. It has a 2.5l in it and over 200k on the odometer. My plan is to tear the engine down and rebuild it a little more then stock. I have no intentions of dropping in a turbo, that's for another one. Who are some reliable sources for performance parts other then all the usuall Subaru upgrades that would be done on a Subaru. I am concerned about the cooling aspect of the engine. I would like to know what people are using for radiators. Thanks.
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| CptTripps |
Feb 27 2015, 01:19 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Oh man....there are no shortage of options here. The cooling is essentially the same as any other radiator setup like the SB350 guys are doing. LOADS of options there.
coldwater914.com for all the engine mounting bits. Save yourself the headache of fabricating your own. (Unless you were looking forward to that part.) |
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| AndyB |
Feb 27 2015, 02:45 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(CptTripps @ Feb 27 2015, 02:19 PM)  Oh man....there are no shortage of options here. The cooling is essentially the same as any other radiator setup like the SB350 guys are doing. LOADS of options there. coldwater914.com for all the engine mounting bits. Save yourself the headache of fabricating your own. (Unless you were looking forward to that part.) Cpt. I have no intention of massive fabrication. Ian at cold water has my list. My only concern is what others are using as their cooling system. But what I am really looking for is those with experiance on a N/A 2.5 l for guidance. Anyone can throw a bunch of parts together, but making them into something street friendly and not stock are two different things. |
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| mepstein |
Feb 27 2015, 03:12 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,649 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 27 2015, 03:45 PM) QUOTE(CptTripps @ Feb 27 2015, 02:19 PM) Oh man....there are no shortage of options here. The cooling is essentially the same as any other radiator setup like the SB350 guys are doing. LOADS of options there. coldwater914.com for all the engine mounting bits. Save yourself the headache of fabricating your own. (Unless you were looking forward to that part.) Cpt. I have no intention of massive fabrication. Ian at cold water has my list. My only concern is what others are using as their cooling system. But what I am really looking for is those with experiance on a N/A 2.5 l for guidance. Anyone can throw a bunch of parts together, but making them into something street friendly and not stock are two different things. I have no fabrication skills. I'm buying the radiator kit from renegade hybrids. I understand it's a bolt in solution with some cutting for air to enter and exit. It's about a grand. Not the cheapest solution but probably the best for my needs - eg33 swap |
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| ThePaintedMan |
Feb 27 2015, 03:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States
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Not to hijack, but before you order the one from Renegade, ask Chads74 about his Renegade radiator experience. For $1,000 you get a radiator that leaks within 3 months after installation and they refuse to repair it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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| DBCooper |
Feb 27 2015, 06:19 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Huh. Mine's been in there for eight years now without any problems, though they've probably changed a lot of things in that long a time. I think the only significant advantage of their kit is the shrouding that's been worked out pretty well. It's a thousand bucks, though, and that's quite a lot for shrouding.
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| AndyB |
Feb 27 2015, 06:58 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(DBCooper @ Feb 27 2015, 07:19 PM) Huh. Mine's been in there for eight years now without any problems, though they've probably changed a lot of things in that long a time. I think the only significant advantage of their kit is the shrouding that's been worked out pretty well. It's a thousand bucks, though, and that's quite a lot for shrouding. Personally I am a fan of Ruby914's shroud. Now there is a person with skills. |
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| AndyB |
Feb 27 2015, 07:05 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Feb 27 2015, 04:21 PM) Not to hijack, but before you order the one from Renegade, ask Chads74 about his Renegade radiator experience. For $1,000 you get a radiator that leaks within 3 months after installation and they refuse to repair it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) No worries George. I am not a big fan of them in general. But if they do have something that I need then yes I will order from them but a $1000 radiator is not on my short or long list |
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 27 2015, 07:08 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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Most likely you could use the radiator from the donor car and build a shroud. Anything is possible. The Scirocco radiator is small and aluminum units are very efficient.
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| AndyB |
Feb 27 2015, 07:10 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Feb 27 2015, 08:08 PM) Most likely you could use the radiator from the donor car and build a shroud. Anything is possible. The Scirocco radiator is small and aluminum units are very efficient. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) I knew you would weigh in Mike thanks. And are we talking origional scirocco? |
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| AndyB |
Feb 27 2015, 07:12 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(DBCooper @ Feb 27 2015, 07:19 PM) Huh. Mine's been in there for eight years now without any problems, though they've probably changed a lot of things in that long a time. I think the only significant advantage of their kit is the shrouding that's been worked out pretty well. It's a thousand bucks, though, and that's quite a lot for shrouding. DB are you running a turbo? |
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 27 2015, 07:30 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,346 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 27 2015, 05:10 PM) I knew you would weigh in Mike thanks. And are we talking origional scirocco? No. I'm talking about a "Scirocco" radiator like you would find at Summit Racing or Jegs. They are about the smallest unit on the market and would be great for a modest Subi. The key in any radiator is controlling air flow. |
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| JRust |
Feb 27 2015, 07:32 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,310 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Corvallis Oregon Member No.: 129 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The nice thing with a NA suby is they are easy to cool. I would use the one in the car to start. Bob had one for sale int he classifieds that was perfect. Didn't have the shrouding but you can do they pretty easy. I have a renegade setup in my old v8 car. I had zero problems with it.
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| DBCooper |
Feb 27 2015, 07:37 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 27 2015, 05:12 PM) DB are you running a turbo? Yes. When I bought that radiator the intention was to put in a SBC, but then changed to Subaru mid-process. It's way more than enough cooling, gotta give it that. |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 27 2015, 09:29 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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George, if his radiator leaked at 90 days then he needs to check the voltage in his coolant and be sure he has a ground strap on the tranny. That or a terrible mismatch of materials in his system. Opps, back on subject; Plus one on the Sirocco radiator. $60 bucks shipped on Ebay. Add a set of Dodge fans for another $60. Looking forward to another conversion thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| AndyB |
Feb 28 2015, 06:54 AM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 27 2015, 10:29 PM) George, if his radiator leaked at 90 days then he needs to check the voltage in his coolant and be sure he has a ground strap on the tranny. That or a terrible mismatch of materials in his system. Opps, back on subject; Plus one on the Sirocco radiator. $60 bucks shipped on Ebay. Add a set of Dodge fans for another $60. Looking forward to another conversion thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Which Dodge fans? Thanks |
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| AndyB |
Feb 28 2015, 06:55 AM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Feb 27 2015, 08:30 PM) QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 27 2015, 05:10 PM) I knew you would weigh in Mike thanks. And are we talking origional scirocco? No. I'm talking about a "Scirocco" radiator like you would find at Summit Racing or Jegs. They are about the smallest unit on the market and would be great for a modest Subi. The key in any radiator is controlling air flow. Mike thanks for the clarification. |
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| 76-914 |
Feb 28 2015, 10:29 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,647 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(Scarlet75 @ Feb 28 2015, 04:54 AM) QUOTE(76-914 @ Feb 27 2015, 10:29 PM) George, if his radiator leaked at 90 days then he needs to check the voltage in his coolant and be sure he has a ground strap on the tranny. That or a terrible mismatch of materials in his system. Opps, back on subject; Plus one on the Sirocco radiator. $60 bucks shipped on Ebay. Add a set of Dodge fans for another $60. Looking forward to another conversion thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Which Dodge fans? Thanks 2003 Dodge 300M or Intrepid Sirocco Radiators 1985-1992 |
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| AndyB |
Mar 11 2015, 04:50 PM
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The Governor is watching me Group: Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: 10-April 10 From: Philadelphia New York Member No.: 11,595 Region Association: North East States |
So like many things this has now turned into a since I am doing this anyway project. The car will be stripped down to its chassis and be redone. The final color is not determined yet, however it will be in the red family. So these showed up this morning at my door step. The guy left them there as I was getting ready to open the garage door to say something. Funny the tag says inspect before accepting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
 Best part is my wife wanted me to get those flares. And so the saga begins. I have no deadlines for this car so its going to be a while. |
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| mepstein |
Mar 11 2015, 04:58 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,649 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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What car is getting the work done? Pics?
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