Flat 8 ? I've seen pics of the Lind one, how about a running one here! |
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Flat 8 ? I've seen pics of the Lind one, how about a running one here! |
Mueller |
Mar 12 2015, 12:20 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
HaHa, This is an ongoing work in progress toward F8 perfection.When you say layers,I suppose you mean Cad. Not cad,these are the GM drawings that I've modified to make 8,in Gimp. Cleaned up the photocopy,scaled and rotated,hours of fun.Then modded and dimensioned. A twin cam VVT is in the works as a reasonable compromise,the heads are the toughest job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Watercooled canted 4 valve,pushrod,a kiss approach. Where to get them.20+ years they've been posted. [ SOHC 2.9L That SOHC motor is pretty looking engine! I've rebuilt a Lycoming, never touched a Corvair motor.... Below...anothe pic of the Jabiru motor, I didn't see this pic in your other threads... I know pic below is a 6 cylinder, but I'd imagine they made the 8 the same way... http://contrails.free.fr/engine_jab_inside_en.php |
veekry9 |
Mar 14 2015, 11:00 AM
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veekry9 |
Apr 9 2015, 11:16 PM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
Aero diesel,in a flat v configuration.
http://eps.aero/the-eps-engine/ Appears to have good prospects. Corvair-8-VVT-TC / |
veekry9 |
Nov 9 2015, 02:45 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
http://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=5104 Ah,the madness.This is so..awesome. This crankcase is steel!Probably to test layout of 120* Vee angle of the cylinder banks. |
Mueller |
Sep 8 2016, 08:23 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,150 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I forget what I was searching for last night, google had this one pop up...
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/boxer-engi...-8-project.html A flat 8 made from 2 flat 4 motors. I didn't know Alfa made a horizontal motor! |
r_towle |
Sep 8 2016, 03:59 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Forgot what you were searching for so "flat 8 " motor is your default?
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veekry9 |
Sep 10 2016, 08:30 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
Jurgen Barth May 24 1980 Porsche 908/80 2.1L-6 Turbo. 2nd overall at LeMans,a podium finish,Ickx,Joest and Leclere . https://www.google.ca/search?q=1980+24+Hour...IrR9fShVhuLM%3A So,a liquid cooled flat 8 is your quest,and you have a few spare Subaru 3.0 H6s laying around gathering dust. https://www.google.ca/search?q=subaru+3.0L+...SgA&dpr=1.5 http://blog.perrinperformance.com/perrin-h6-build-up/ This then is the plan,as before,a cut and weld operation.Such an effort requires the skills of talented welders and machinists. http://www.strobotics.com/index.htm https://www.google.ca/search?q=robotic+arm+...+axis+deburring (Mounting the two cases in an indexed position,the arm,with an air die-grinder and vee tool will cut the cases in an identical,mating method. A weld prep and section that positions the two case ends longitudinally +/- 0.25mm,0.01",perfectly.A series of small tacking welds to stitch-weld the groove. This is far superior than filling a 1/4" sawn gap and the greater shrinkage with it,this is a minimum weld volume,enabling a close control of distortion. After all,you would want to make another after the first one,exactly the same,or a new improved weld groove.) Titanium and inconel valves,as a twin turboed variant is,after all,so hot.The billet crank is the main ingredient,held by the lightweight rods. None of this is cheap,and the effort would be wasted by a weak approach.A reliable fuel control is essential,so,no sneezing,and it won't burn a piston. A shortstroke < 4L engine would hang together long enough to impress,using a welded crank and steel rods is about the lowest cost option,rev limited. Now,what to put it in,a 914 roadster,as above,with the snorkel and wing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) https://www.google.ca/search?q=porsche+boxs...RK6BQoQ_AUIBigB https://www.google.ca/search?q=porsche+boxs...neJlg3UBSXfM%3A Hmmm... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0WwqYAv4Qw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-yX_kmcQrg http://www.racingsportscars.com/type/photo...he/908__80.html / https://books.google.ca/books?id=RQzeqWTBaT...rbo&f=false / |
veekry9 |
Sep 14 2016, 03:05 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
914-8,From the book,'67-8. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=24992&st=0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHIBPb2zkIc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klptXsXwCjI Loud eight noises,er,music. / |
r_towle |
Jan 29 2023, 04:47 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
@Mueller are you still on the board?
Did you find anyone making cases or cranks? I am close to starting up this project Mill and lathe here, just getting them hooked up. |
SirAndy |
Jan 29 2023, 05:00 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,943 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
@Mueller are you still on the board? Did you find anyone making cases or cranks? I am close to starting up this project Mill and lathe here, just getting them hooked up. I still think copying the original flat /12 design with the center supported crank could work for two stock /4 cranks welded together. You need to eliminate the tendency of the crank to want to bend in the center under torque. It was also bloody brilliant to run the fan in the center straight off gears on the crank. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.stuttcars.com-179-1675033228.1.jpeg) |
930cabman |
Jan 29 2023, 05:23 PM
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r_towle |
Jan 29 2023, 05:57 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Umm,
I need my 914 to sound like this It’s what drives me on this quest. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKcpbFF7WI |
r_towle |
Jan 29 2023, 06:07 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Anyone have more info on the Lind motor?
I have met a cousin of my wife who is a vw nut and lives in Sweden. I want to see if we can track down the motor. Any articles or folklore, myth or clues ???? |
r_towle |
Jan 29 2023, 06:13 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,658 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
@Mueller are you still on the board? Did you find anyone making cases or cranks? I am close to starting up this project Mill and lathe here, just getting them hooked up. I still think copying the original flat /12 design with the center supported crank could work for two stock /4 cranks welded together. You need to eliminate the tendency of the crank to want to bend in the center under torque. It was also bloody brilliant to run the fan in the center straight off gears on the crank. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.stuttcars.com-179-1675033228.1.jpeg) Two points, When cutting the case to do this, you are left with two main journals next to each other…I don’t think bending could happen at that point. The fan… I’m intending on a horizontal fan, and I found some high speed 90 degree transmission I can use from a pulley at the front to a shaft mounted fan. Now, I did see @Cairo post a new fan shroud on some other thread somewhere….I want to see who he got that from…make it a bit longer |
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