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Finishing A 914-6 GT Conversion Project, Great Start, But The Devil Is In The Details! |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 4 2017, 01:39 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Dust off the trans.
Note that the trans had been gone through and intermediate plate added for 914-6, a new gear, bearing, and gaskets while under PO moparrobs ownership. Should be ready to go! Next is the trans shift arm fix recommendation that comes by way of Forrestkhaag. It’s a 10 cent fix! He called it "the shaved head dime". Yes it takes a bit to file it down to fit in the cup hole. Do yourself a favor and do a search and check out forrestkhaag’s posts regarding trying to resolve shifting issues on his 914-6 conversion. He truly has been through the wringer. Best of all his tip came to me via a PM from him on another subject, he just offered it. I definitely took his advise even though I already had the new bushing installed, yup I dug out a brand new never used bushing and ordered another. They do not like to come out nicely either! Scraped the arm all up trying to get the dang bushing out. The story is that after fighting gear “nash” issues Leamon gave forrestkhaaag the same advise and it fixed it! This is a great site! |
lonewolfe |
Sep 4 2017, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Replace the bushing with a dime?
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Lucky9146 |
Sep 4 2017, 03:23 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
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lonewolfe |
Sep 4 2017, 03:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Replace the bushing with a dime? Oooops sorry wasn't clear no insert the dime then install the new bushing. It is working to space the bushing up a bit is all. Changes the arm position closer to the clutch. That makes more sense to me. Is this mod only for the 914-6 or for 914-4's as well? |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 4 2017, 05:02 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Replace the bushing with a dime? Oooops sorry wasn't clear no insert the dime then install the new bushing. It is working to space the bushing up a bit is all. Changes the arm position closer to the clutch. That makes more sense to me. Is this mod only for the 914-6 or for 914-4's as well? May have to defer to someone with a lot more experience on that possibly Leamon who I do not know but advised forrestkhaag. I will see what else I can learn. Fair question though. |
gms |
Sep 4 2017, 05:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,706 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Replace the bushing with a dime? Oooops sorry wasn't clear no insert the dime then install the new bushing. It is working to space the bushing up a bit is all. Changes the arm position closer to the clutch. That makes more sense to me. Is this mod only for the 914-6 or for 914-4's as well? the lever arm is the same on both 914/4 and /6 |
Larmo63 |
Sep 4 2017, 07:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,267 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
I didn't do the dime bag trick and my clutch is fine.
Just saying. |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 4 2017, 08:45 PM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
I didn't do the dime bag trick and my clutch is fine. Just saying. Glad you got yours running yesterday! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Nice work! Oh well maybe it will help mine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
porschetub |
Sep 5 2017, 01:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,729 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I didn't do the dime bag trick and my clutch is fine. Just saying. I think this modification would suit those who have machined flywheels (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ,I would say that a shim washer under the pivot ball would do the same thing,I don't really know if there is enough thread to support that,surely would do the same job. Reason I mentioned as I believe I have the same issue as forrest had but to a lesser extent,just feel like the lever isn't moving enough....... At the moment I live in hope my trans isn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) . |
Maltese Falcon |
Sep 5 2017, 10:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,851 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
I didn't do the dime bag trick and my clutch is fine. Just saying. Lawrence...I think the 914World has the best nicknames around any of the car forums; Dime Bag (too funny / as in Ceech + Chong), taco plate, hell hole, narp...Not Hijacking this thread; back to your scheduled program (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Marty |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 6 2017, 10:56 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
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Lucky9146 |
Sep 7 2017, 09:59 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Porting my brand new intake manifolds.
Wow, these new manifolds sure look nice! And I’m going to grind on them? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) This operation does not sound like fun. Porting is a new one to me and one problem I have is that while I like doing most things once so doing anything 6 times is pure torture. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/head_hurts_kr.gif) Ugh! PO was generous enough to mail me his “porting kit”. How’s that for support! Thanks moparrob!! No more excuses now I have to do it! To start with, I just have to say that I was concerned about tackling this project with brand new manifolds as they were quite an investment and not something to screw up! I am sure there are many out there that have done this and it would be no biggie to them. So here goes…………….. I was looking for something around the house to use to model the ported hole size to and it turns out that a ping pong ball is almost exactly the correct size I need. Who knew? Disclaimer: I didn't realize that I had only 3 China ping pong balls to choose from. That's the insulator and the diameter I am going to be working to. Transfer insulator diameter to manifold, and you can see the difference in size and how much material has to come out with no gouges or scarfing up the flange surface! No Pressure!!!! More to come................................ |
mepstein |
Sep 7 2017, 11:01 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,596 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Get a scap piece of aluminum, cut a hole in it. Them work on "porting" it. Always practice a new procedure on scrap before you do the real thing. Pretty universal.
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Lucky9146 |
Sep 7 2017, 11:36 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Tried starting with grinding wheels, first the one from the kit. Yup loads right up just like I thought it would with aluminum. I think it was meant to grind on a Chevy manifold. I even resurrected a coarse stone that I had from eons ago. And that one loaded right up too!
Well this ain’t working. So off to the hardware store and search for a solution. Came up with this jewel of a carbide rotary file burr tool FOR ALUMINUM. What a great find! The girl at the hardware store even remarked “isn’t it pretty?” and I had to agree. $33.00 pretty. Didn’t even need that grinding wheel in the picture it was only for back up. Man that burr tool is amazing but I can see how you can get in big trouble real fast though. Slow and easy but it cuts like butter. Runner finish is a close match to as new, actually got it even closer after this pic. Enlarged runner in process left and original runner right. Developed a process which yielded a good runner finish very close to what the manifolds came with by using these tools in this order left to right. Carbide burr, 60 grit roll, 80 grit roll, coarse scotch brite and fine scotch brite. Not so bad just tedious and time consuming plus knowing there are 6 total to do. |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 7 2017, 11:49 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
Get a scap piece of aluminum, cut a hole in it. Them work on "porting" it. Always practice a new procedure on scrap before you do the real thing. Pretty universal. Thanks for the tip Mark but I had so much material to remove that there was plenty of practice right in front of me. Start off slow is all. Have plenty of wood working experience in shaping just different tools and material is all. Going well more to post and that is time consuming too but I wanted to share this experience. Thanks for weighing in. |
mepstein |
Sep 7 2017, 11:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,596 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Get a scap piece of aluminum, cut a hole in it. Them work on "porting" it. Always practice a new procedure on scrap before you do the real thing. Pretty universal. Thanks for the tip Mark but I had so much material to remove that there was plenty of practice right in front of me. Start off slow is all. Have plenty of wood working experience in shaping just different tools and material is all. Going well more to post and that is time consuming too but I wanted to share this experience. Thanks for weighing in. If you have wood experience then you are ahead of the game. You already know it's easier to remove than put it back. Good luck. |
moparrob |
Sep 7 2017, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 646 Joined: 27-April 10 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 11,663 Region Association: None |
Looking awesome. I'm glad someone is putting those porting tools to good use.
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Lucky9146 |
Sep 8 2017, 11:04 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
[quote name='moparrob' date='Sep 7 2017, 12:11 PM' post='2525302']
Looking awesome. I'm glad someone is putting those porting tools to good use. [/quote Thanks Rob! These are billed as 40/36 manifolds but they actually measured 35mm so I am really going from 35 to 38mm. It is a lot of alum to remove and that carbide burr works perfect for this job!. In process on right side Metal removed from just one runner The ping pong ball fit check |
Lucky9146 |
Sep 8 2017, 11:40 AM
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Always Wanted A Bigger Go Cart Group: Members Posts: 1,663 Joined: 22-September 14 From: Poway California Member No.: 17,942 Region Association: Southern California |
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mepstein |
Sep 8 2017, 11:55 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,596 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Liar ! You've done this before. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Or it least it looks that way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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