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> Finishing A 914-6 GT Conversion Project, Great Start, But The Devil Is In The Details!
Lucky9146
post Mar 31 2019, 09:00 PM
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He had this cut away that showed how the little carrier fits to the side shifter.

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This is a little exaggerated picture below but it looks like the little carrier does not line up to the boss in the case. I know in the first picture above it looks lined up but it isn't. This is not my gearbox only his old case mock up, so time will tell. At least I can see where everything goes now.
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post Mar 31 2019, 09:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure Chris Foley said he needed to do some work in the trans to make everything fit.
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post Mar 31 2019, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 31 2019, 08:19 PM) *

I'm pretty sure Chris Foley said he needed to do some work in the trans to make everything fit.


Wish he was not so far away. Going to get another estimate locally as I got another lead late yesterday. Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Mar 31 2019, 09:45 PM
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Martin Bott does make specific kits to specific year trans. Check out his thread in the members vendor section. Chris looked like he had the wrong parts and welded up a case to make it work. Your problem looks similar to those pictures.
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post Mar 31 2019, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Mar 31 2019, 08:45 PM) *

Martin Bott does make specific kits to specific year trans. Check out his thread in the members vendor section. Chris looked like he had the wrong parts and welded up a case to make it work. Your problem looks similar to those pictures.


Thanks Steve good point will do. In the pictures the parts are fitted to an early case and mine is a later so that may do the trick.
Thanks for weighing in and the tip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 15 2019, 11:03 PM
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Baby steps on the 915 to 916 Trans. project
Have decided on a local San Diego shop to do the Martin Bott Kit work. I will continue to show my progress on the "916 box" as I know others are looking for a shop.

It was recommended that I get the one piece bearing retainer from California Motorsports, which I have now received.
Amazing looking piece going into the box not to be seen again, so I just had to share a pic. One of many things I had not planned on and I am sure there will be more to come.

Did a lot of research as Steve suggested and it was well worth the time. Have confirmed I do have the right part I spoke of last time and as Steve mentioned that Chris Foley had the wrong one which in fact did. Have to get into my box and make sure it works as advertised as opposed to the mock up. I know for sure that at least one hole needs to be tapped in my case.
Hoping to get the box into work soon now.
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post May 2 2019, 06:24 AM
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My mag case 915 with the Bott kit has been assembled for years but not
yet installed. My excuse being I needed to build the car to put it in.
Anyway, the shaft support you focused on needed attention in my box too.
I had to locate and tap into an existing boss. Not the end of the world.
As I recall Chris Foley had to create a boss by welding.
The time consuming issue for me was that that support had to be shimmed off its
mounting surface to allow the shift console to fit flush on the case.
I have to see if I have pics of the assembly.
This thing looks filthy.


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post May 2 2019, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ May 2 2019, 05:24 AM) *

My mag case 915 with the Bott kit has been assembled for years but not
yet installed. My excuse being I needed to build the car to put it in.
Anyway, the shaft support you focused on needed attention in my box too.
I had to locate and tap into an existing boss. Not the end of the world.
As I recall Chris Foley had to create a boss by welding.
The time consuming issue for me was that that support had to be shimmed off its
mounting surface to allow the shift console to fit flush on the case.
I have to see if I have pics of the assembly.
This thing looks filthy.


Thanks for weighing in on my thread. I saw you had done the Martin Bott kit and kept meaning to reach out to you about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) This site is awesome!

I have since my post, been in touch with Martin and he has assured me I have the correct part for my alum trans and that his included template should do the trick. I was concerned about exactly what you were talking about, that even with the template, the shift console fits flush! Couple that concern with Steve having problems with his and I decided to do all I could to ensure success and make things as straight foreword (ie keep the cost down) for my trans guy.

Martin is very responsive by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I knew I had to have the boss drilled and tapped but the location became a concern. Hopefully this issue will be tackled soon, it's just other things have gotten in my way.
Can't wait to get this into work. Thanks again.
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post May 31 2019, 12:42 PM
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Ok finally getting to installing the Martin Bott 916 kit on my transmission. It was a good news bad news day, mostly good though! Keep in mind I bought a "rebuilt 915"

Here we go!

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First thing we find is a double staked lock tab, not the end of the world my trans guy says, but something I would have replaced on a rebuild.

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Ring and pinion looked great! The speedo plate pretty dirty but it goes away anyway.

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Now we see a problem.....
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post May 31 2019, 12:55 PM
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But before we get to the missing teeth a check of the pinion depth..

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And we are good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Removal of the bottom plate lowest point of the gearbox was a lot dirtier than I liked but my guy said not that bad. Rebuilt gear box? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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Now on to the missing teeth......

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So I got on the phone with the guy I bought the "rebuilt" trans from and had my trans guy explain it and long story short the offending parts are coming to me overnight!

Sliders and syncros are good

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Completely disassembled

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It was on to the little support block we were so concerned about and it turns out that will match up as designed by Martin and so marked to drill that boss should happen today if all goes as planned. My trans guy has this cut away housing that makes everything so much easier to see. So far so good!
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post May 31 2019, 02:49 PM
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Still watching this great progress with baited breath. My mechnical speedo Bott kit is waiting in the wings.
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post May 31 2019, 02:54 PM
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Nice!! I like the Electric speedo on mine! No more bouncy needle and much better trip odometer. Are you going for originality?
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QUOTE(aturboman @ May 31 2019, 01:49 PM) *

Still watching this great progress with baited breath. My mechnical speedo Bott kit is waiting in the wings.


I have told him there are others out there with the kit, and I was going to ping you soon on progress pics, so thanks for keeping track. Parts arrived later today than expected but we are back at it tomorrow morning and I can't wait! The guy I found and I have hit it off really well and I think he is enjoying my taking pictures and documenting. This guy knows these things like the back of his hand, sees things so quick. He knows I have engine experience but no gearbox experience so he is taking me through it. His shop is old school and I love it, watching him go into drawers and pull out old tools, while saying "I haven't done one of these in a while", cracks me up.
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Yes I'm looking to keep things as original as possible so I opted for the mechanical speedo. Admittedly they are a far cry from the electronic ones but I have a perfect 1973 Mag 915 donor so very close to the proper 916 box.

I'm in the queue to get mine completed once Jim complete's his.

Good to see some of the old school guys are still around.
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I'm enjoying this portion of the thread and your 916 follies. What a great chance for you to learn another aspect of these precision vehicles.
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Very nice Jim, this will be great reference for anyone looking to do the same.
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I'm enjoying this portion of the thread and your 916 follies. What a great chance for you to learn another aspect of these precision vehicles.


Cool! and great seeing you at Luft6. For those that may not know, I bought this car from Moparrob and happy to say we have become friends as a result. He stopped by at Luft twice, to show the car "that got away" to his buddies that recalled stores of seeing it on jack stands in his garage for a few years. Moparrob had started the 6 conversion and hence the title of my thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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