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Outlaw 914s, Show your "Outlaw" rides |
Millerwelds |
Sep 15 2015, 05:00 PM
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#281
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Pleepleus Group: Members Posts: 723 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Grass Valley, CA Member No.: 9,206 Region Association: Northern California |
I say we change it up. It should be "914 Inlaws"
This group is a perfect example of Inlaws all the way around. Give each other shit, try to scare the new guy till he leaves, tell each other what they can or can't or should / should not do with their projects. Show up on the 914 holidays / gatherings and make asses out of ourselves. Band together to save those in need, donate time and parts to deserving causes.... Good, bad, ugly and everything in between. So there you have it. Someone design and sell badges on the cheap so we can all roll with them. Everyone here is a member. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
whitetwinturbo |
Sep 15 2015, 05:18 PM
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#282
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
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dangerranger01 |
Sep 15 2015, 06:06 PM
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#283
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Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Boring, Oregon U.S.A. Member No.: 4,578 Region Association: None |
I don't know, but these are outlaw fender flares for sure...
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euro911 |
Sep 15 2015, 06:16 PM
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#284
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,860 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Looks like a contestant in tractor races (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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poorsche914 |
Sep 15 2015, 06:23 PM
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#285
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
This outlaw constantly won FTOD at local autocrosses for several years! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
carr914 |
Sep 15 2015, 06:54 PM
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#286
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 122,932 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
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earossi |
Sep 15 2015, 08:44 PM
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#287
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 8-December 11 From: Chicago, Il Member No.: 13,878 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I never thought of my car as an outlaw......but, in reality, it is not a stock car either.
My objective in doing the project was to maintain somewhat of a "stock" look to the car, while doing things that would improve the performance and fun of the car. To start the project required a search for a restorable 914. The car I selected was a 1976 model that had spent much of its life in California and ended up in Idaho Falls, Idaho. Dry, high desert country. So, though it had some rust (what 914 does not!), it was minimal. None of it was structural. So, the longs, floor pans, and trunk floors were serviceable. The battery tray did require replacement, and there was some minor rust, but very little in comparison to what I have seen here in the East. And, there is no evidence of any accident repairs to the car. I had much of the restoration done in Salt Lake City. I did not want to spend a huge amount, but ended up with about $18k in the car (which did not include the conversion to a 3.2/6 later in the project). For that amount, I ended up with a car that was disassembled for paint. The paint job is not concours quality (for which I did not want to pay). I would call the paint a good 5 foot car quality. Not perfect, but since the car was going to be a driver.....why spend $7k or so on a concours quality paint job to get it chipped as soon as you take it on the freeway! I also had the interior done, but again, there was not any effort made to duplicate original. The color scheme chosen was also not stock: Estoril Blue with a Coral Red interior (think BMW M3). But, suspension and power plant were areas that received the changes. So, the car was modded as follows: - Brad Mayeur (914Ltd) longitudinal stiffeners - 911 Front Suspension - 5-stud hubs - Boxster front brake calipers (Rich Johnson) - Adjustable Koni Sport shocks - Trailing arm stiffeners (PMB design) - 21mm torsion bars - Elephant Racing rubber bushings - 911 3.2 injected engine (not included in stated costs!) - 916 steel flares - 6 and 7 inch 16" Fuchs wheels - Back dated chrome bumpers - Aft mounted auxiliary oil cooler with electric fan assist - 19mm master cylinder - All suspension bushings were replaced with rubber |
r_towle |
Sep 15 2015, 08:56 PM
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#288
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,695 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
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lonewolfe |
Sep 15 2015, 09:20 PM
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#289
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
I never thought of my car as an outlaw......but, in reality, it is not a stock car either. My objective in doing the project was to maintain somewhat of a "stock" look to the car, while doing things that would improve the performance and fun of the car. To start the project required a search for a restorable 914. The car I selected was a 1976 model that had spent much of its life in California and ended up in Idaho Falls, Idaho. Dry, high desert country. So, though it had some rust (what 914 does not!), it was minimal. None of it was structural. So, the longs, floor pans, and trunk floors were serviceable. The battery tray did require replacement, and there was some minor rust, but very little in comparison to what I have seen here in the East. And, there is no evidence of any accident repairs to the car. I had much of the restoration done in Salt Lake City. I did not want to spend a huge amount, but ended up with about $18k in the car (which did not include the conversion to a 3.2/6 later in the project). For that amount, I ended up with a car that was disassembled for paint. The paint job is not concours quality (for which I did not want to pay). I would call the paint a good 5 foot car quality. Not perfect, but since the car was going to be a driver.....why spend $7k or so on a concours quality paint job to get it chipped as soon as you take it on the freeway! I also had the interior done, but again, there was not any effort made to duplicate original. The color scheme chosen was also not stock: Estoril Blue with a Coral Red interior (think BMW M3). But, suspension and power plant were areas that received the changes. So, the car was modded as follows: - Brad Mayeur (914Ltd) longitudinal stiffeners - 911 Front Suspension - 5-stud hubs - Boxster front brake calipers (Rich Johnson) - Adjustable Koni Sport shocks - Trailing arm stiffeners (PMB design) - 21mm torsion bars - Elephant Racing rubber bushings - 911 3.2 injected engine (not included in stated costs!) - 916 steel flares - 6 and 7 inch 16" Fuchs wheels - Back dated chrome bumpers - Aft mounted auxiliary oil cooler with electric fan assist - 19mm master cylinder - All suspension bushings were replaced with rubber Your car looks great! I love the color! Is that an original Porsche color? |
earossi |
Sep 15 2015, 09:31 PM
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#290
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 8-December 11 From: Chicago, Il Member No.: 13,878 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I never thought of my car as an outlaw......but, in reality, it is not a stock car either. My objective in doing the project was to maintain somewhat of a "stock" look to the car, while doing things that would improve the performance and fun of the car. To start the project required a search for a restorable 914. The car I selected was a 1976 model that had spent much of its life in California and ended up in Idaho Falls, Idaho. Dry, high desert country. So, though it had some rust (what 914 does not!), it was minimal. None of it was structural. So, the longs, floor pans, and trunk floors were serviceable. The battery tray did require replacement, and there was some minor rust, but very little in comparison to what I have seen here in the East. And, there is no evidence of any accident repairs to the car. I had much of the restoration done in Salt Lake City. I did not want to spend a huge amount, but ended up with about $18k in the car (which did not include the conversion to a 3.2/6 later in the project). For that amount, I ended up with a car that was disassembled for paint. The paint job is not concours quality (for which I did not want to pay). I would call the paint a good 5 foot car quality. Not perfect, but since the car was going to be a driver.....why spend $7k or so on a concours quality paint job to get it chipped as soon as you take it on the freeway! I also had the interior done, but again, there was not any effort made to duplicate original. The color scheme chosen was also not stock: Estoril Blue with a Coral Red interior (think BMW M3). But, suspension and power plant were areas that received the changes. So, the car was modded as follows: - Brad Mayeur (914Ltd) longitudinal stiffeners - 911 Front Suspension - 5-stud hubs - Boxster front brake calipers (Rich Johnson) - Adjustable Koni Sport shocks - Trailing arm stiffeners (PMB design) - 21mm torsion bars - Elephant Racing rubber bushings - 911 3.2 injected engine (not included in stated costs!) - 916 steel flares - 6 and 7 inch 16" Fuchs wheels - Back dated chrome bumpers - Aft mounted auxiliary oil cooler with electric fan assist - 19mm master cylinder - All suspension bushings were replaced with rubber Your car looks great! I love the color! Is that an original Porsche color? No, the color is a BMW color. Its a dark blue metallic with a slightly purple tinge to it. The BMW color code is B45. |
dangerranger01 |
Sep 15 2015, 09:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 145 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Boring, Oregon U.S.A. Member No.: 4,578 Region Association: None |
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mgp4591 |
Sep 16 2015, 01:44 AM
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#292
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,527 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
I never thought of my car as an outlaw......but, in reality, it is not a stock car either. My objective in doing the project was to maintain somewhat of a "stock" look to the car, while doing things that would improve the performance and fun of the car. To start the project required a search for a restorable 914. The car I selected was a 1976 model that had spent much of its life in California and ended up in Idaho Falls, Idaho. Dry, high desert country. So, though it had some rust (what 914 does not!), it was minimal. None of it was structural. So, the longs, floor pans, and trunk floors were serviceable. The battery tray did require replacement, and there was some minor rust, but very little in comparison to what I have seen here in the East. And, there is no evidence of any accident repairs to the car. I had much of the restoration done in Salt Lake City. I did not want to spend a huge amount, but ended up with about $18k in the car (which did not include the conversion to a 3.2/6 later in the project). For that amount, I ended up with a car that was disassembled for paint. The paint job is not concours quality (for which I did not want to pay). I would call the paint a good 5 foot car quality. Not perfect, but since the car was going to be a driver.....why spend $7k or so on a concours quality paint job to get it chipped as soon as you take it on the freeway! I also had the interior done, but again, there was not any effort made to duplicate original. The color scheme chosen was also not stock: Estoril Blue with a Coral Red interior (think BMW M3). But, suspension and power plant were areas that received the changes. So, the car was modded as follows: - Brad Mayeur (914Ltd) longitudinal stiffeners - 911 Front Suspension - 5-stud hubs - Boxster front brake calipers (Rich Johnson) - Adjustable Koni Sport shocks - Trailing arm stiffeners (PMB design) - 21mm torsion bars - Elephant Racing rubber bushings - 911 3.2 injected engine (not included in stated costs!) - 916 steel flares - 6 and 7 inch 16" Fuchs wheels - Back dated chrome bumpers - Aft mounted auxiliary oil cooler with electric fan assist - 19mm master cylinder - All suspension bushings were replaced with rubber I remember watching your car being worked on (and I helped hold a few things in place while work was being done!) and I agree that it doesn't come off as an "outlaw" because it resembles many others in the changes that were made, but those individual touches do fall into an outlaw theme- it's what you wanted and the upgrades improved the overall performance and the look of the car is unconventional with the red interior (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) which is better seen than described! It took alot of attention to detail and the car comes off great, really an eye popper! That's what brings this question to mind- Does it have to look outlaw to be outlaw? Some here are obviously built to insult the PCA crowd and others look tame but will bite your ass if you turn your back. So the question comes up again- what is needed to determine your car to be an "outlaw"... and does anyone really care? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
maf914 |
Sep 16 2015, 06:19 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Is this outlaw enough........ Hey Paul, Someone stole your air scoop! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
MJHanna |
Sep 16 2015, 06:58 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 806 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
I’ve being reading this thread and have held back on saying much but an outlaw to me still has to be a street car. That is it has to have a license and is run on the street. Race cars are race cars and there are a lot of configurations and some wild things done to 914s for the sake of going faster within whatever rules the car has to comply with to run with that series. I keep thinking my 914 was an “outlaw” but after playing with it and just looking at it the last several weeks, it just is not. It falls into the “sleeper” category and I can live with that. I did what I wanted to do to it and all the things I changed make the car “my version” of a killer combination. You have to look close at mine to understand all the changes. If it was an outlaw you would not have to look close, it would scream from 10 feet. That’s the best way I can define what an outlaw is to me.
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madmax914 |
Sep 16 2015, 09:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 16-February 14 From: Salem, Oregon Member No.: 17,007 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I’ve being reading this thread and have held back on saying much but an outlaw to me still has to be a street car. That is it has to have a license and is run on the street. Race cars are race cars and there are a lot of configurations and some wild things done to 914s for the sake of going faster within whatever rules the car has to comply with to run with that series. I keep thinking my 914 was an “outlaw” but after playing with it and just looking at it the last several weeks, it just is not. It falls into the “sleeper” category and I can live with that. I did what I wanted to do to it and all the things I changed make the car “my version” of a killer combination. You have to look close at mine to understand all the changes. If it was an outlaw you would not have to look close, it would scream from 10 feet. That’s the best way I can define what an outlaw is to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Somewhere in your statement is the definition of a 914 "Outlaw". |
whitetwinturbo |
Sep 16 2015, 11:28 AM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
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ssuperflyoldguy |
Dec 2 2015, 01:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: 15-November 15 From: NorCal - East Bay Baby! Member No.: 19,364 Region Association: None |
Since we all know that there are some awesome "Outlaw 914s" represented on 914world, I thought it might be cool to start a thread. Show us your "Outlaw" rides. mmmm - Outlaw says something a little vintage, lowered, acceptable vintage wheels, performance modifications but kinda vintage go fast at first glance, not too shiny, primer helps, cool exhaust note, soot around it. What's German for moonshine runner? - but I think until Magnus builds one, we won't really know. My take: I like GT flares, not Outlaw however- can't show a pic yet as I don't have it in my driveway yet but soon... Fattest tire pushing limit's of stock (or at least appearing stock) contributes to Outlaw Patina Fuchs, Outlaw Full polished Fuchs, not Outlaw really nice stock lugnuts, not Outlaw Extended wheel studs, Outlaw drilled out stuff, Outlaw, color matched mirrors, not Outlaw, polished stock old school chrome, Outlaw Leaving the old chrome, Outlaw Shaving door handles, not Outlaw because they are Chrome. Picard, not Outlaw Kirk, seriously? Taking out the trash, not Outlaw Taking out the trash and stopping to look at your Outlaw, Outlaw Slammed, Outlaw reg ride height, not outlaw (unless rallied recently - see unwashed below) Go fast stickers or real #'s, Outlaw unwashed, Outlaw Monster Energy Stickers, not Outlaw unless they paid you to pimp them around... Bride seats, not Outlaw Empty pill bottle of crosstops, Outlaw (very Kowalski) If you know who Kowalski is, you get Outlaw street Cred even if you drive a GeoMetro OE800 or King Cobra, Outlaw Going wine tasting in your Outlaw, not Outlaw Going on a tach-check thru wine country, Outlaw Drinking and driving, stupid mismatched Recaros, Outlaw missing unessential bodywork or parts, Outlaw switching to chrome bumpers, Outlaw modern paint colors, Not Outlaw Slick engine swaps, not Outlaw effective but not so slick engine swap, Outlaw Carbuerated 6 cyl anything, Outlaw Vintage speed stuff on engine, Outlaw modern Fuel injection, not Outlaw unless you built it and can tune it. completely buffed out & modified OEM FI, Outlaw big weber's, Outlaw ICT's, subtract Outlaw status points Big modern stereo with Nav screen & iphone holder, not Outlaw Blaupunk radio, Outlaw Hole in dash where radio was, Outlaw Trying too hard, not Outlaw flashing your lights to move someone out of the way, Outlaw quiet exhaust, not Outlaw Steel wheels, not Outlaw (except mine all dated 6/66 - true) Widened steelies, Outlaw Slick fuel cap in ctr of hood, not Outlaw in my book Slick fuel cap in driver's side of hood, Outlaw Can-openered hole in hood to get to fuel cap, Outlaw Flip open fuel cap stolen from a classic Mini, Outlaw. a combination of at least half of these may make your teener an Outlaw If you have to ask, not an Outlaw... Don't mind the spelling, bedtime and my first 914World post. |
thieuster |
Dec 2 2015, 05:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
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And a great first posting. Off course, we want to see pics. 'Pics or it didn't happen' is the expression, I think (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Menno |
MJHanna |
Dec 2 2015, 07:03 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 806 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
ssuperflyoldguy, Nice list but some of your list can lead to a sleeper rather than an outlaw: such as your engine requirements: this engine meets your def of an outlaw but you will never know it..... but I will (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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DBCooper |
Dec 2 2015, 08:23 AM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
Outlaw means no rules. If you have to look up the rules for what's outlaw and what's not there's a pretty fair chance your car is not outlaw.
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