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Outlaw 914s, Show your "Outlaw" rides |
rick 918-S |
Aug 23 2015, 08:25 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,817 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Marty, your car is badass! I think it was 2005 WCR? I had the pleasure of taking in some of the details. I agree with Rand. Outlaw is in your face, catch your eye and keeps your attention. There is no subtleness about it. When you look at it you know.
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r_towle |
Aug 23 2015, 08:48 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,656 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Seems to me, the term outlaw means:
I did it for me not you I do not care what you think My ideas all for me Fast Stripped of needless extras To me, that is an outlaw, something not made to conform to a genre, but to please the builder alone. I would strongly argue that Magnus and the current 356 outlaws are no longer tuned into that feeling....it's now a culture that seems to have developed yet another set of rules.... To be voted into a group of outlaws seems to be completely against the whole idea of an outlaw....it's a singular car with its sole mission to be pleasing the current owner and builder, nothing more. |
Vysoc |
Aug 23 2015, 09:02 AM
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Vysoc Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Young Harris, Georgia Member No.: 10,737 Region Association: South East States |
Here is a random thought,
The 356's have the "Outlaw" tag, the 911's have the "R Gruppe" tag. The 914 group needs their own identity, the 914-6's (Original) are their own special group. I was working on this idea last week and trying to create an idea for a logo or crest, we need our own identity. My first thought was "Rebel" and not having anything to do with any Civil War connotations as the Rebel flag would not be a part of the logo. I think the Outlaw/R Gruppe/Rebel moniker goes with cars that are modified with great taste keeping with the Porsche (914) Marque, alive in the design and doing special things away from the stock; Flared Fenders, Flat Six Engine, Upgraded Suspensions, Modified Exhausts, Modified Interiors, etc... I do think the ultimate expression that I have seen so far is the Black Swan with the slight chopped top, not a big fan of chopping tops but that car with the hundreds of hours of custom metalwork just "LOOKS RIGHT", in my opinion. That car to me is the ultimate 914 REBEL. They say we are not thought as highly as other Porsches and the NARP moniker why not coin the name of Rebel? Just my .02, Vysoc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
EdwardBlume |
Aug 23 2015, 09:15 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
To be voted into a group of outlaws seems to be completely against the whole idea of an outlaw....it's a singular car with its sole mission to be pleasing the current owner and builder, nothing more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Exactly... |
zambezi |
Aug 23 2015, 09:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 14-April 08 From: Lafayette, LA Member No.: 8,920 Region Association: South East States |
I won 2nd place in the 2005 356 registrry holiday "outlaw" class with my 1953 Porsche 356. As stated the 911's have the R group and in the Austin Healey circle they label the non stock carss as "nasty boys". We should come up with our own term so when we say it people know right away we are reffering to a 914.
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Madswede |
Aug 23 2015, 09:23 AM
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Flat Out Driver Group: Members Posts: 853 Joined: 13-September 06 From: Rio Rancho NM Member No.: 6,831 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Interesting thread. I consider my own car to be a hot rod, not an outlaw for most of the same reasons described on this thread already.
My car has a 3.2 /6 that is relatively close to stock: still N/A, but with ITBs and EDIS, new pistons and cylinders, Dougherty racing cam, higher comp, Megasquirt, dual plug... so "relatively" is a relative word I suppose. The body has had a fair amount of original stuff deleted and GT flares added, as well as custom R-style taillights (with added backup lights), suspension and brake upgrades, Real Fuchs 930 wheels 16x7 and 16x9, front GT-style oil cooler, and a bumper painted two different colors (which gets me the most questions, my favorite being: "why haven't you finished painting your bumper?"). We kept the 901 transmission though, stock gearing, but had it rebuilt and a lot of stuff replaced. Rennshift and linkage too. It's heavily modified, nowhere really near a stock 914 in the sense of the engine at all and some obvious cosmetics, but outlaw? Nah. The 914 is always being modified so much that in my mind it must be something that really irks the purists. Since I'm not a purist by any means, I'm not qualified to say what an "outlaw" 914 is. |
Camaro Mike |
Aug 23 2015, 09:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 19-December 14 From: SW Chicagoish Member No.: 18,234 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Johny Blackstain |
Aug 23 2015, 09:31 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
We should come up with our own term so when we say it people know right away we are reffering to a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Outlaw + "Teener" = Jailbait? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Wdunster |
Aug 23 2015, 10:07 AM
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Panel beater Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 10-June 14 From: Monroe,nc Member No.: 17,469 Region Association: South East States |
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poorsche914 |
Aug 23 2015, 10:29 AM
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T4 Supercharged Group: Members Posts: 3,122 Joined: 28-May 09 From: Smoky Mountains Member No.: 10,419 Region Association: South East States |
E gruppe
E = einzigartig = unique Since there seems to be no set rules on what exactly makes a 914 an "outlaw", each one is truly unique. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
thieuster |
Aug 23 2015, 10:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 31-January 15 From: 275 mls NW from Stuttgart. Member No.: 18,384 Region Association: Europe |
A nice decal / shield of some sort with something like 'E Gruppe' (just to quote a suggestion), or 'M Gruppe' as in 'Mittelmotor' or 'modded / modified / modifiziert'. That will give it some real look and feel. But please, please, NOT with the use of the old German fonts. I prefer early 70s fonts!
Somewhere halfway down this page a few links with a lot of inspiration! Fonts Porsche posters Menno |
Andyrew |
Aug 23 2015, 11:30 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,377 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Fast Stripped of needless extras I think this is not necessarily true. I would vote that a diesel engine or a 100hp honda powered car would be outlaw, or maybe "renegade" as its not the norm. And there are PLENTY of cars that I would think would be considered outlaw that have stereo's. And thats completely needless. I mean who needs fenders? Bumpers? Paint? A passenger seat? Glass? "Stripped of needless extras" would be a race car plain and simple. |
MMW |
Aug 23 2015, 11:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 6-October 13 From: Northern NJ Member No.: 16,477 Region Association: North East States |
There is no one definition for an outlaw even in the 356 community. All are just personal opinions. One thing for sure is it pisses off the purists.
My opinion is a car modified to try to be the fastest, baddest car around. Most mods are based on race car stuff & make it barely street legal. Basically a hot rod. Something that at first glance screams "I'm fast" & then can back it up. If it doesn't have the visual then it is a sleeper which is equally cool. |
dlkawashima |
Aug 23 2015, 12:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 9,749 Joined: 1-October 10 From: San Jose Member No.: 12,234 Region Association: Northern California |
'M Gruppe' as in 'Mittelmotor' or 'modded / modified / modifiziert'. I like M Gruppe, as in the Middle finger gruppe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif) cuz that's what I picture these guys saying to the purists with their cars. |
DBCooper |
Aug 23 2015, 01:33 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
I think the outlaw concept you're looking for is just the sports car equivalent of an American hot rod. Modified for purpose, disregarding anybody's "rules," and making fun of purists.
About a club I have to go with Groucho, and wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member. Of course that's a piss poor attitude, and I know it, but hey, isn't that "outlaw"? |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 23 2015, 02:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,671 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Outlaw ?
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stevegm |
Aug 23 2015, 02:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,111 Joined: 14-July 14 From: North Carolina Member No.: 17,633 Region Association: South East States |
There is no one definition for an outlaw even in the 356 community. All are just personal opinions. One thing for sure is it pisses off the purists. My opinion is a car modified to try to be the fastest, baddest car around. Most mods are based on race car stuff & make it barely street legal. Basically a hot rod. Something that at first glance screams "I'm fast" & then can back it up. If it doesn't have the visual then it is a sleeper which is equally cool. I agree. I didn't mean to start a debate. Although it has been an interesting thread. To me the key is - uniqueness. Not necessarily following the trend, but, following the owner's heart. Beyond that, full performance, whatever that means to the owner, would be an important element to me. |
messix |
Aug 23 2015, 02:20 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
outlaw = give concourse weanies annurysms
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euro911 |
Aug 23 2015, 02:27 PM
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Retired & living the dream. God help me if I wake up! Group: Members Posts: 8,859 Joined: 2-December 06 From: So.Cal. & No.AZ (USA) Member No.: 7,300 Region Association: Southern California |
Mike, we voted…….you're officially Outlaw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) It's because I am from AZ, isn't it? We get a bad rap out here!!To me, the term 'Outlaw' denotes a certain look for a Porsche. On 356s and 911s, owners remove the bumper trim (even the entire bumpers on 356s), add deep-dish wheels (some blacked-out), lower the car and possibly 'souping up' the motors. I consider the BB to be more of a Hot Rod than an Outlaw. |
KELTY360 |
Aug 23 2015, 02:41 PM
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914 Neferati Group: Members Posts: 5,094 Joined: 31-December 05 From: Pt. Townsend, WA Member No.: 5,344 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) This is a complicated topic bordering on existential intricacies. Seems to me that an 'outlaw' would be a car that goes against the norm, flouting convention. In the 356 and 911 world, that has meant going against the grain of the purist majority.
In the 914 world, the purists are largely a minority who don't tend to speak out for fear of ridicule. So maybe, in our world, the correct, concurs cars are really the outlaws and their owners are the true noncomformists. Of course, that is changing as purists from the 911 and 356 camps discover the brilliance of 914s and seek to find those correct and original examples. |
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