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> 3.2 Carerra Motor SMOKING
CaltranCraig
post Mar 2 2005, 02:39 PM
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I have a 3.2 1985 carerra motor in my 914...Great power, great fun... The problem. It smokes while idle...but mainly after it has warmed up. When under load, and when I lay into it, no smoking?
Could this be a vacume issue, oil distribution issue? easy fix you think? Or do I face facts.....need valve guides? valve seals? or engine overhaul (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
Could anyone suggest?
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post Mar 2 2005, 02:53 PM
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Like this: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) ?

Just kidding. Welcome to the club!

I assume it's smoking out the exhaust, yes? It's really a very open question. Does your engine have carbs? How many miles? Upgrades/mods? How does it idle? Color of the smoke? etc., etc.....
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post Mar 2 2005, 02:55 PM
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Welcome to the insanity Craig. Wish I had an answer for you as I'm sure that I will have to answer that question. I go to the Chicken Coop alot. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 2 2005, 02:56 PM
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Welcome, I was going to post some incorrect info about you needing the pull the motor and discard it. Ofcourse I would be around to collect it from your trash pile, (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) but I see your a new guy. So I won't pick on you yet.


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post Mar 2 2005, 02:59 PM
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smoke on deceleration usually is with the valve guides. Seems odd that it only smokes at idle. Have someone follow you in your cloud of doom and have them tell you what they see. Could be that it is smoking most of the time, but you can't see it while driving.
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post Mar 2 2005, 03:01 PM
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I see you're in newport beach. Theres going to be a 914 club gathering in Costa Mesa in a few weeks. You should bring your car by and check it out!

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post Mar 2 2005, 04:26 PM
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Did you change the oil then it started smoking?
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post Mar 2 2005, 04:59 PM
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The common knock on 3.2s is valve guides....

Depending on your intake and how the oil tank is plumbed you maybe be sucking oil from the tank. Do you run it real full or about a quart low?
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post Mar 3 2005, 07:47 PM
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Whats up Craig! If I find a wreck some what soon, i'll trade motors and a little cash. That way i can rebuild yours with a twin plug & stand alone setup and spank both you and Dave!

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post Mar 3 2005, 07:53 PM
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post Mar 5 2005, 06:11 PM
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Nice car Craig! Got to see it last Sunday in Huntinton. Good Luck.
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post Oct 21 2024, 06:27 PM
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Ok; did you get it fixed ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 21 2024, 06:33 PM
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Ok; did you get it fixed ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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LOL 2005 - is this a record for the oldest thread bump? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 21 2024, 07:43 PM
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It a record; but, I recently heard from Craig and was curious how it went.
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QUOTE(! @ Mar 2 2005, 03:59 PM) *

The common knock on 3.2s is valve guides....

Depending on your intake and how the oil tank is plumbed you maybe be sucking oil from the tank. Do you run it real full or about a quart low?


That is an old thread bump!

I would agree with this, 3.2's were common for smoking due to valve guides. Also seen on a number of 911's and 914-6's the oil was 1-3 Qts overfilled.
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post Nov 26 2024, 11:58 AM
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It’s got to be the record. Dan did a major engine overhaul, and found the rod bearings to be the culprit, while replacing the valve guides while in.
Runs like a top ever since and is the reliable bullet proof 3.2 liter we all have come to expect.
Perhaps I’ll finally get out and meet the motley crew at some point. Always appreciate.
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post Nov 26 2024, 12:22 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) good to hear Craig
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QUOTE(CaltranCraig @ Nov 26 2024, 09:58 AM) *

It’s got to be the record. Dan did a major engine overhaul, and found the rod bearings to be the culprit, while replacing the valve guides while in.
Runs like a top ever since and is the reliable bullet proof 3.2 liter we all have come to expect.
Perhaps I’ll finally get out and meet the motley crew at some point. Always appreciate.



Hey are you in Folsom? I am on the other side of Lake Natoma.

How does a rod bearing turn into smoking at idle? Because it causes the rings to unseat perhaps? I had a bad rod bearing and I didnt even know until I tore down the motor for valve guides due to smoking on decel.
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post Dec 24 2024, 04:10 PM
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[quote name='Justinp71' date='Nov 26 2024, 03:44 PM' post='3179045']
[quote name='CaltranCraig' post='3179001' date='Nov 26 2024, 09:58 AM']
It’s got to be the record. Dan did a major engine overhaul, and found the rod bearings to be the culprit, while replacing the valve guides while in.
Runs like a top ever since and is the reliable bullet proof 3.2 liter we all have come to expect.
Perhaps I’ll finally get out and meet the motley crew at some point. Always appreciate.
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Hey are you in Folsom? I am on the other side of Lake Natoma.

How does a rod bearing turn into smoking at idle? Because it causes the rings to unseat perhaps? I had a bad rod bearing and I didnt even know until I tore down the motor for valve guides due to smoking on decel.
[So many years ago, she’s been reliable since that time. I’m in Folsom, we should talk 914’s. ]
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post Dec 24 2024, 05:36 PM
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Simple..owner not aware of a rod knock and needed a top end..I do rod bearings ,on every top end on 3.2..and rod bolts
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